Since B is going with that POS online thing (Steam), i want to be able to buy a version that contain DL credits for ALL the online content. I do NOT want to wait until it delivers on DVD, because that takes bloody ages before you get hold of them, and you risk having your DLC capable friends spoiling the fun.

Limited editions/special box sets with game chips and "making of" DVD's are ok, but i rather have a code i can enter to DL the DLC's without having to use a credit card/paypal online.

B - Please release a DLC "download code" product that you can buy as soon as the game is released and get the DLC's as soon as they are released.

(And this goes for Fallout/Elderscrolls/Whatever).

Whats wrong with steam? Hiding from the government?

Stem is a piece of bloatware and i hate it. The end.

I'm with you on this. It'd be either this or waiting until there's a retail edition at my local gamestore... I'm attached to all physical stuff.

Well, aren't you an ignorant one? Steam is great, the only thing it lacks is the game's case/box

Now, this isn't going to happen. Simply because it's a
stupid thing to do. Plus, DLCs are planned after the game is released so it's never certain how many of them there
will be, so you can't set a price on something yet to exist. Also, people like you should stop making threads about DLCs, the game was just announced.

yeah steam isnt bloat ware if you use it as a gaming and community hub... its connectivity its the future of gaming. If you want to be a hermit in the gaming wasteland then go ahead but the majority of users want steam and prefer downloadable content, now if its a full expansion pack then yes i would go to the store to purchase it because im a huge fan of paper manuals. Plus giving out a DLC code would mean that ALL the DLC they are ever going to do would have to be planned at launch, and where do you expect to get the DLC probably Bethesda's online distribution service of choice.... Steam

Wrong.

On-topic, this is probably way too much work for Zenimax to deal with for the tiny few who actually want something like this.

Also, even the name DOWNLOADABLE CONTENT suggests that you will have to buy it somewhere online and download it. And your only choice would be Steam or if you are using something like Direct2Drive, or maybe Bethesda creates a website to sell it. Either way, once you get the game, if it's using Steam as it's DRM like New Vegas did (And I think it will). You WILL HAVE TO install Steam on your computer, and utilize it to play your game.

If you are not satisfied with this, go buy it for the consoles. And if you can't do it, just don't play the game.

@Capital88: Yes, maybe. But not all games. But I hope Bethesda hear us and release a couple full expansion pack instead of little DLCs.

Talk about ignorance yourself. Some people do not want bloatware on their computers. Just because you like stuff that attach itself to the net does not mean that everyone else want it.

And DLC's have a fixed cost, and it is better for pretty much every company on the planet to get revenue as soon as possible. Suppose that you pay for 7-8 DLC's and they release 5 - they make a profit.

And as for your request, i do not give a damn about what you think about "threads about DLCs": this is an open discussion forum - if you want to control the content of what other people, i suggest you open up a blog.

As far as I know Bethesda hasn't confirmed Skyrim will use Steam?

It is a bit early to be talking about DLCs.

i dont want small piece of crap dlcs, i want expansions
:wink_smile:

Bloatware: "Software that has lots of features and requires considerable disk space and RAM. As the cost of RAM and disk storage has decreased, there has been a growing trend among software developers to disregard the size of applications."

Seriously, Steam is 2mb, and it doesn't waste your computer's resources.
Plus, it doesn't require constant connection so you can play the game like, for instance, Ubisoft's DRM. Also, it got a lot of useful features such as in-game internet browser, chat, achivements, statistics, easy interface and it's quick to buy stuff. Care to explain why exactly don't you like it? 'Cus in my opnion, it's the most useful software ever developed for gaming needs.
But, as another said, it's too much work for Zeni and Beth to do this, while only a few would want it.

I honestly prefer hard-copy to soft...

QFT

for once Silvade and I agree, steam as a service is great it is a community as well as a store it serves as a gaming hub, it is essentially what PC players usually miss out on consoles have a HUGE advantage in online community terms everything is very interconnected and its great for playing with friends meeting new people and its all very seamless, PC never had a successful service like that until Steam, sure you have vent and x fire but those are really pretty limiting compared to something like X-box live. Its a useful software and just because you dont wish to implement it is your issue, for many games like TF2 or Halo community integration is everything and i think beth wants to work towards that, heck even mods can be posted on steam a living breathing elder-scrolls community sharing ideas and mods dynamically over a single unifying network, and your just the kid in the corner throwing rocks

Yup.
Furthermore, I think it's strange that it's still possible a specific company has a (near) monopoly on this. Freedom of choice seems to be sacred in all domains these days. That and what I posted above.

you could use stardock? or direct to drive? or EA Store? or Battle.net? or Amazons new service? take your pick

but none of those offer the community integration that steam has and steam has the widest support for all games

It's a fact that because of this DRM mania other companies will be bankrupt in the near future. You'll still need Steam anyway. Besides, I guess I'm so old-fashioned I like to but things I can see and touch without using credit card numbers or paypal. I can't help but think it's unsafe too.

Wouldn't you prefer not to pay for things that might never exist?


Also: I like Steam because I'll never lose my games.

I don't really know much about PC gaming these days so forgive me if I'm incorrect. Can't you just buy a copy of the game in the store even if steam is required? You still get to have a real copy. And as for DLC, everyone who wants it has to go on the internet to get it (or wait for GOTY). If you don't have a credit card or pay pal (or don't want to use it) you can buy cards with cash that can be used to purchase stuff online. Well, at least here (New Zealand) you can, I assume you have something similar.

Sure DRM is annoying, but it's not that bad.

your exactly right my friend. its not bad at all

Nope, DRM is the end of the world and clearly gaming companies that use it are going to collapse (just look at how poorly EA and Ubisoft are doing these days :rolleyes:)

If your problem is that you would have to use a credit card or paypal to buy the DLC (even from an online service that is not Steam), wouldn't it just be better to get a prepaid Visa (or whatever) for the ammount that you need instead of paying 20+ more dollars to maybe get content that might never exist?

true, steam sure is great.

Well, I hope this won't be necessary and we'll have retail editions....

Me neither. I've got a handy thing for it that's been in use by mankind since time immemorial. You've got at least one too. It's called a closet.

I only buy physical stuff, so yes.

Whether it's a this or that card: it's still a card that governs you money and you trust it to the internet, which is exactly my prob. It's not a solution. Moreover, I prefer my regular credit card over visa for reasons that are beyond this thread.

Did you actually read my post? I meant companies like Direct2Drive... Think about it. Steam already conquered the market.

I've replied to this above. The point is that if there was a retail edition, I'd prefer to get that one. Otherwise I'd wait indeed for the GOTY edition, but I'm confident they'll release retail packs like they did for OB. If they didn't, I agree with the OP they'd better include codes early. Which won't happen anyway, so it's GOTY or the other retail editions.