Crash When I Save : IV

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:32 am

What am I looking for?? I tried removing mods a few times, seemed to work with just Ob esm, so I'd start replaceing mods untill it crashed again, until I'd get my entire LO back??, Or.. tried removing a few at a time, until I was back to just Oblivion.Esm and Still crash.
I've had the same problem on Previous installations and wound up abandoning them.
I've gone back Several saves, since Long before it started crashing, and it doesn't take long before They start to crash.

I can Play for a couple of hours without any problem, but once I try to Save, it crashes...
Tried New Profiles. (no help)
I rename the Save directory and started a New one. (no help)
I reapplied the 4GB patch. (no help)
Nothing's out of range in Hardware Monitor..
Defraged, Scanned system, Game Booster dosn't help, ...

I'm kinda lost on this one.. :banghead:

*Current LO

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Masters for: Save 3 - Tawnay - The Testing Hall, Level 30, Playing Time 330.31.30.ess00  Oblivion.esm01  underdark.esm02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.0]03  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]04  VASE - core.esm05  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]06  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]07  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 4.8.0]08  TRoN.esp**  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]**  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]09  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.2]0A  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0B  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]0C  Better Cities .esp0D  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.0]0E  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.0]0F  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.0]**  Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.78]10  P1DseeYouSleep.esp11  RAEVWD Cities.esp  [Version 1.8]12  RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp  [Version 1.7]13  Display Stats.esp  [Version 1.1.1]14  FormID Finder4.esp15  Get Wet - just droplets.esp16  Get Wet.esp17  kuerteeActorDetails.esp18  kuerteeCleanUp.esp19  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.7.1]1A  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.5]++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp1B  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp1C  Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp1D  Andragorn_Weapons_Armors.esp**  Armamentium female.esp1E  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]1F  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]20  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp++  ArmamentariumLL.esp  [Version 1.35]21  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]22  Akaviri Imports.esp23  Amen'thalas.esp24  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]**  ArtifactsFemaleArmor.esp++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]25  Hentai Mania.esp26  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 3.3.2]27  VHBloodlines 1.2.esp  [Version 1.4]28  Knights.esp29  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]**  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp2A  The Lost Spires.esp2B  Mighty Umbra.esp2C  Ungarion1TheWelkyndSword.esp  [Version 1.4]2D  The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp2E  AFK_Weye.esp  [Version 2.1.Non-COBL]2F  MannimarcoComplete.esp30  MannimarcoRevisited.esp**  MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp  [Version 0.1]31  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]32  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp33  Oblivifall - Ambiant Dungeon SFX.esp  [Version 1.2]34  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]35  Soulgem Magic.esp  [Version 1.0]36  RefScope.esp  [Version 2.0.2]37  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90]38  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.84]++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.83]++  Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk.esp  [Version 0.78]++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp39  IDKRRR_C_race.esp3A  1em_Vilja.esp  [Version 2.3.2]3B  Companion Neeshka.esp3C  Sonia.esp3D  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]++  Cobl Races - Balanced.esp  [Version 1.52]3E  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 4.8.0]3F  Better Cities - VHBloodlines.esp  [Version 4.7.0]40  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp  [Version 4.7.0]41  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 4.8.0]42  Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp  [Version 4.7.0]43  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.1]44  UnderdarkSaga.esp45  UnderdarkMap.esp++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]46  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.0]47  Bashed Patch, 6.esp48  Oblivion_Graphics_Extender_Support.esp  [Version 0.3]

*Prior Load List (some Mods removed)

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Missing Masters for: Save 841 - Tawnay - The Great Forest, Level 31, Playing Time 398.38.46.essxx Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.espxx Blood&Mud.espxx FCOM_Blood&Mud.espxx LostSwordOfTheAylied - Claymore Add-On.espxx LostSwordOfTheAylied - OBSE Add-On.espxx LostSwordOfTheAylied.espxx Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.espxx Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.espMasters for: Save 841 - Tawnay - The Great Forest, Level 31, Playing Time 398.38.46.ess00  Oblivion.esm01  underdark.esm02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.0]03  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]04  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]05  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]06  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]07  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]08  VASE - core.esm09  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]0A  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]0B  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]0C  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 4.8.0]0D  TRoN.esp**  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]**  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]0E  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.2]0F  DLCShiveringIsles.esp10  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]++  Shivering OOO.esp11  Better Cities .esp12  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp13  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp14  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp**  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  FranDarkSeducerWeapFix.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]15  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]16  Fran Armor Add-on.esp17  Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp18  FranOBSEConfig.esp  [Version 0.5]19  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.0]1A  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.0]1B  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.0]1C  Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp1D  Ayleid Loot EXtension - OOO Dungeons.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.78]1E  P1DseeYouSleep.esp1F  RAEVWD Cities.esp  [Version 1.8]20  RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp  [Version 1.7]21  Display Stats.esp  [Version 1.1.1]22  FormID Finder4.esp23  Get Wet - just droplets.esp24  Get Wet.esp25  kuerteeActorDetails.esp26  kuerteeCleanUp.esp27  Streamline 3.1.esp28  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.7.1]29  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.5]++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp2A  Adonnays Classical Weaponry.esp2B  Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp2C  Andragorn_Weapons_Armors.esp++  RustyItems.esp**  Armamentium female.esp2D  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]2E  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]2F  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp30  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]31  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]32  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]33  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB5]34  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]++  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]**  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]35  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]36  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]37  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]38  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]39  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_SpawnRatesSlightlyReduced.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]++  FCOM_LessRats.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_NoSpiders.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Pests.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Swarms.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_NoReaversInGates.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3A  Mart's Monster Mod - No Carrion Rats.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Slimes.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Fiends.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Lanterns.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Adventurers.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3B  Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3C  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3D  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]3E  MMM - Playable Undead Armors.esp  [Version 1.7]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_ArcheryArmamentarium.esp  [Version 2]++  FCOM_ArcheryRealSwords.esp  [Version 2]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]**  Fransfemale.esp3F  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp40  Akaviri Imports.esp41  Amen'thalas.esp42  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]**  ArtifactsFemaleArmor.esp++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]43  Hentai Mania.esp44  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 3.3.2]45  VHBloodlines 1.2.esp  [Version 1.4]46  Knights.esp47  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]**  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp48  The Lost Spires.esp49  Mighty Umbra.esp4A  Ungarion1TheWelkyndSword.esp  [Version 1.4]4B  The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp4C  AFK_Weye.esp  [Version 2.1.Non-COBL]4D  MannimarcoComplete.esp4E  MannimarcoRevisited.esp4F  MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp  [Version 0.1]++  FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]50  FCOM_DulanCult.esp  [Version 0.9.9]51  Gah Falquan Umarile.esp++  FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp  [Version 0.9.9]52  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]53  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp54  Oblivifall - Ambiant Dungeon SFX.esp  [Version 1.2]55  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]56  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]57  RefScope.esp  [Version 2.0.2]58  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90]59  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.84]++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.83]++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.78]++  Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk.esp  [Version 0.78]++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp++  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]**  Moonshadow Elves - Sc.esp**  _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp5A  IDKRRR_C_race.esp5B  1em_Vilja.esp  [Version 2.3.2]++  1em_Vilja OOO FCOM Fix.esp5C  Companion Neeshka.esp5D  Sonia.esp5E  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]++  Cobl Races - Balanced.esp  [Version 1.52]**  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 4.8.0]5F  Better Cities - VHBloodlines.esp  [Version 4.7.0]60  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp  [Version 4.7.0]61  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 4.8.0]62  Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp  [Version 4.7.0]63  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.1]**  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]64  UnderdarkSaga.esp65  UnderdarkMap.esp++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]66  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]++  OOO Harvest Containers Filter patch for mods.esp  [Version 1.00]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.0]67  Bashed Patch, 0.esp----> MISSING MASTER: LostSwordOfTheAylied.esp

Streamline and OSR, currently off. I Do have OBGEv2 active, OBSE 1.9stable

» Fri May 27, 2011 7:56 pm

If you start a new game, do you have the same problem?

What operating system are you running?

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:05 am

If you start a new game, do you have the same problem?

What operating system are you running?

Well not for awhile anyway...
I'm on Win 7/64.

**I had over 400 hrs. on Last game..

**I had this problem back ~Jan. probably another 400+hr. game, loaded back 300 saves before peoblems began, lasted a few days and had the same problem.

I was running a Dual Boot, and it didn't matter witch one I boted on. I repartitioned one (to make it Larger), reformated reinstalled Windows, and everything else..
Something's gotta be Corupt somewhere, but?? :confused:

***I've Remade the Ini, reinstalled Oblivion, Cleaned my Redistery...

I've gone back to a save with 110 hrs. and it lasted about 2hrs., So it doesn't seem like it would be anything in the Save file...
I've got Several plug-in in the OBSE folder, but I've tried isolateing them, they don't appear to be a factor, tried without OBSE, still crashes...

» Fri May 27, 2011 11:48 pm

Do you make new saves? Overwrite saves? How many files in your saves folder? Ever use quick/autosaves??

» Sat May 28, 2011 12:54 am

Do you make new saves? Overwrite saves? How many files in your saves folder? Ever use quick/autosaves??

I'd been makeing New saves, other than StreamSave, (cycle of 15)
I was upto a couple thousand files in there, although I started New profiles, witch didn't seem to be a factor either.

Can this be caused by Mod Conflicts?? Or corrupt Mods??
It almost acts like a Mod conflict, but every time I think I've isolated it to a Specific Mod, (or Group of) and uninstall them, it goes good for awhile and starts again...

» Sat May 28, 2011 3:32 am

Try cleaning out your saves folder. Over 1K files, and Oblivion starts getting confused. (and the save menu slows considerably.....) Knock it down to just a few files, (just move the others to another folder..... can even be a sub-folder of saves...) see if that helps.

» Sat May 28, 2011 7:11 am

Try cleaning out your saves folder. Over 1K files, and Oblivion starts getting confused. (and the save menu slows considerably.....) Knock it down to just a few files, (just move the others to another folder..... can even be a sub-folder of saves...) see if that helps.

Well that was the thing with Profiles, they each have a Sub Folder..
Not sure what's the deal, I Reinstalled, and tried an earlier save with limited mods, played a couple hours and it Crashed on save attempt, I uninstalled Cobol and it's run several hours crash free, I even turned StreamSave back on... but I'm not sure the first crash wasn't a Fluke, I've Reactivated Cobol, just not all the options, could be something corrupted in therre somewhere, I can't hardlet belive it because I've had that installed for ages.

I had a game do the same thing ~9mnths. ago, and I tend to think Whatever the problem was then is still lurking... :cold:

*I hadn't made any Quicksaves or Autosaves, But I had Reloaded while the game was active...
I'd been running Pluggy, had a single crash and disabled it, I just ran 3hrs, without a crash, and StreamSave every 10min., But, there's really no way to know if it's cured because it didn't show up for 400 hrs. :shrug:
When I get a little more confident I'll try to go back to my old game and see if I can pin anything down...

**The best I had it I could average 1 1/2-2 hrs. before a CTD, maybe 5min.-4hrs. on the edges, but I'd almost thought that was fairly normal..