Go up to my post and click that link(I.m so lazy:)) and then type in Zenimax. You have to do it that way, cuz it seems to time out. There is a bunch of stuff on there about SI ,KOTN, FO3, Brink, etc... you get the idea. That's seems to lead E1 to Skyrim.

Yeah...this!

I tend to lead towards Skyrim now too!

I'd be willing to bet that Skyrim was either an expansion for Oblivion, or maybe a mobile game. It was trademarked only two months after KOTN and SI. It wasn't even a year after Oblivion came out either. They were working on Fallout and SI at the time and most likely not TESV so why would they go ahead and already name the next game before work had even begun.

Well the earliest filing on that list for Oblivion is in 2003, so it's not like they haven't done that before. Plus, they've been renewing the trademark since 2006, it's still live, so they obviously still intend to use it and it can't have been for DLC. The only reason they would keep the trademark live to this day is if they intend to use it for a game.

It is fishy that they have been renewing it. But at least they were working on Oblivion when it was trademarked. It just seems like such an unnecessarily long amount of time to name a game that still isn't out and most likely wasn't being worked on. Even with Morrowind they filed for trademark a year before release. It just seems like a stupid thing to do when you could just file for trademark after you announce the game.

After they announce it?

That would be the biggest mistake anybody could make.

It's probably smarter to trademark it immediately once you start working on it, so somebody doesn't learn of your project and take all of your ideas...

The game more than likely was being worked on. However, probably had limited staff working on the project. It was probably in the early stages in development. One of the things done early on was probably what the name of the game was going to be. It Beth had their heart set on that being the name of their next game then it would make since for them to trademark it early on. Oblivion was trademarked 3 years before it came out so this does not seem like a practice out of the ordinary.

Lol, someone says this every year.

Bethesda announces game without holding trademarks, planning on getting them afterward.
Profiteers realize Bethesda has announced but does not yet hold trademarks.
Profiteers submit trademark holdings before Bethesda does.
Bethesda has announced a game it has no rights to.
Profiteers offer to sell the rights to Bethesda for exorbitant amounts of money.


It's the same reason that companies often register domain names long before they ever announce a product for them, because they don't want 3rd parties claiming them first for obstructionist or profiteering purposes.

I don't think it will be announced this year or next year for that matter. Honestly I don't see why you guys are thinking a new elder scrolls is going to announced in the near future. They've alread said that they're not working on a new elder scrolls at the moment and with New Vegas coming out I don't think they're to worried about releasing another new game anytime soon.

3 or 4 years is my guess for TES V. They said they're working on improving their games technologys and so they won't be getting started on any game till thats done. Just stop worrying about when the new elder scrolls is coming out and do something else. I am 100% sure a new elder scrolls isn't going to be announced within the year.

I respectfully disagree, it would quite frankly be a ridiculous decision for Bethesda not to announce whatever game they're working on this year. As I've said before, there has never been a year in the past decade in which we didn't know what Bethesda is doing. And this year, we don't know. It would be very shocking if 2011 came with no announcement of a new game.

And no, they never said they weren't working on a new elder scrolls at the moment. They never said that. Way back in August they said not to expect an new elder scrolls in the near future. Announcing a game late in 2010 isn't "the near future." They have said they're not done making Elder Scrolls games, so saying there wont ever be one is a ridiculous, and wrong, statement.

Look, if you feel there wont be a game announced this year, then fine. You're entitled to your opinion. But there's absolutely no reason to post here and say such pessimistic things, and say that we're wasting our time. You're only making yourself look bad by spreading your pessimism here, where all we do is try to stay optimistic.

your sad to think my post is pessimistic. i don't care if elder scrolls 5 came out in 40 years, sure it would be nice to have a new elder scrolls but bethesda is more focused with things like fallout to worry. Even if Obsiden is working on New Vegas bethesda is also focused on fallout 4 and 5 which they promised to make. Also you seem to have misread my post. For some reason you think i said that there was never going to be another elderscrolls game and for reason when i look at my post it says I think they'll be a TES V in the 3 years.

Please if your going to make a proper argument actually go through my entire post next time.

Actually, you did say it was never coming out. You see, I have a thing called short-term memory:



So we've got that out of the way. The fact of the matter is that TES makes Bethesda just as much money as Fallout does. They have no reason to make another Fallout when New Vegas is coming out. Plus, we know that Bethesda can make two games at once. There's no reason to believe that they can't make Fallout 4 while they make TESV. Yes, your post is pessimistic, but if you truly think you aren't being pessimistic, then I don't know what on earth you do think you're being.

Oh? Care to provide an exact quote? As far as I am aware, there is no such statement that they are not working on an Elder Scrolls title. They said (around 8 or 9 months ago) not to expect any ES news anytime soon. In which case, it entirely hinges on the definition "soon."

You do realize that Bethesda Game Studios has no involvement with FNV, right? Bethesda Softworks (the publishing arm) is overseeing that, and Obsidian is doing the development work.

Ask yourself:
If Bethesda split into 2 teams after Oblivion's release, one to work on FO3 and one to work on Oblivion additional content, what was team number 2 doing after it finished the final Oblivion DLC?
If FO3 was released over a year ago, what has the team that hasn't been working on FO3 DLC been doing since then?
When FO3's DLC team finished Mothership Zeta, what project did they begin work on?

After all, it's not like Zenimax is going to pay the bills for BGS developers to just sit around for a minimum year-long period, depending on the team in question.

Further, Todd mentioned at Quakecon that Bethesda Game Studios is working on another title, one they are not releasing the name of.
Pete reiterated that in his BethBlog clarification post, reaffirming this hush-hush in-house developed title.
And might I mention that Todd or Pete within the past month have been making comments regarding completely redesigning their basic engine tech?

And now we turn to trademarks. Zenimax isn't holding onto too many right now. But they do have a prominent one that happens to fit the Elder Scrolls bill quite nicely. Namely, Skyrim.
And what's more, they've been steadfastly renewing this trademark (which costs money and legal preparation) at every six-month interval.
Such renewing implies that said trademark is valuable, and that Zenimax is going out of its way to prevent it from slipping out of their hands.
Such implied value further implies that Zenimax and Bethesda have intent to use said trademark.

EDIT:
And it would be well to add that releasing another Fallout title around the same time as FO:NV would be disastrous for Bethesda as a whole. Bethesda the developer would be competing with Bethesda the publisher, which is a lose-lose scenario.

So if Bethesda isn't sitting around doing nothing, if they're secretively working on another title, if FO:NV is not being developed by them (or any other of the games bearing the gamesas label, like Brink), if making FO4 would cost them money and competition with FO:NV, if they're reformatting their engine, and if they're holding onto a trademark that points to TES, that paint's a picture. No?

Well said, as always.

It's still just rumors and speculation there is no real proof that it's really coming out. Bethesda will release it when they feel ready theres no reason to hold a whole thread over this discussion.

. Its called exageration, I was exaggerating when I said they're never gonna make another elder scrolls as in they won't be making one for awhile.

Exactly, and there's no reason to think it isn't coming out. This was only the Elder Scrolls forum for many, many years before Fallout 3, and people are going to want to talk about future Elder Scrolls titles, regardless of the proof, or lack of proof, that those future titles are being made. So it makes perfect sense to have a dedicated thread to contain that discussion.



:rolleyes:

Maybe you should have implied that in your post. Exaggeration over the internet is a bit hard to tell, as you can't hear the tone and structure of the words being spoken... Only text.

Close enough to post limit, I am locking, have some PMs to send, and I will start a new thread. :stare: