Interior Lag + Companion lag/CTD issue.

Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:27 am

First off, as far as I can tell this is the proper forum for this, however if I am mistaken I apologize.

To begin, I recently got a computer again that can run something past Quake 3, and purchased another copy of Morrowind (My third actually, I've had the bad luck of burning through two game discs since I found this delightful gem). Since then I've had two issues springing forth, both very annoying but not making the game quite unplayable. Yet.

First off, I have occasional interior lag. It happens whether or not I have any mods running, and it is quite spotty, only happening occasionally. I hesitate to call it lag really, it's.. hard to describe. Basically afew buttons, (the attack, third person view, draw weapon ready magic buttons to be specific) stop working, or only work after repeated attempts. As well, my turning speed so to speak, is reduced heavily. It's like my mouse is weighted down with an iron chain, but if I open a menu or the console or anything else there is no mouse lag. Turning up my mouse sensitivity also is no help, and it ends with the same result. The curious thing is my frame-rate stays steady throughout. This is frustrating, but bearable.

The second issue I have is that my game becomes almost unplayable when I get a companion. Occasionally it will go smoothly for a time, but sooner or later my game starts stuttering and soon after I start getting CTDs, either on entering/exiting a cell, or resting/waiting. Doesn't seem to matter whether I have a companion with me or not, nor what mod or type of companion they are, just that I have, at some point in my game, recruited one.


I'm running Windows 7 64-bit Home Premium, 4 gigs of RAM, a GTX 275, and an AMD Phenom II x4 955 3.2 processor. No issues running any other games.


Modlist:
[Game Files]
GameFile0=Assassins Armory.esm
GameFile1=Bloodmoon.esm
GameFile2=Book Rotate.esm
GameFile3=BT_Whitewolf_2_0.esm
GameFile4=MCA.esm
GameFile5=Morrowind.esm
GameFile6=Rise of House Telvanni.esm
GameFile7=Tribunal.esm
GameFile8=£exa's Dwemer Alchemy V2 (EN).esm
GameFile9=Abandoned Dwemer Observatory.esp
GameFile10=abotTakeMyPlace.esp
GameFile11=Agent's Services.esp
GameFile12=Ahnassi.esp
GameFile13=Alchemist's Services.esp
GameFile14=Ald Redaynia Extended.esp
GameFile15=Apothecary' s Services.esp
GameFile16=Archmage's Privileges.esp
GameFile17=AreaEffectArrows.esp
GameFile18=ARJAN_A_Lords_Men_v2.0.esp
GameFile19=Assassins Armory - Bolt Rifles.esp
GameFile20=Assassins Armory - No Scripts.esp
GameFile21=Assassins Armory - Unofficial Patch 7.7.esp
GameFile22=Balmora Baths and Halls.ESP
GameFile23=Balmora Council Club.esp
GameFile24=Balmora Expansion v1.4+.esp
GameFile25=BAR_MournholdTeleportationFix.esp
GameFile26=BB_Clothiers_of_Vvardenfell_v1.1.esp
GameFile27=Better Bodies.esp
GameFile28=Book Rotate - Bloodmoon v5.3.esp
GameFile29=Book Rotate - Tribunal v5.3.esp
GameFile30=BT_Whitewolf_2_0.esp
GameFile31=Byb_Enchantments300_v1.esp
GameFile32=Byb_Traders 300.esp
GameFile33=Casino.esp
GameFile34=Chalk30-Base.esp
GameFile35=Clean Compilation 2.esp
GameFile36=Clean Fort Senmoth.esp
GameFile37=Clean Mechanized Minions.esp
GameFile38=Clean Suran Extended.esp
GameFile39=CleanDenmoreManor.esp
GameFile40=Cleaned_Pearl_Palace_v1.esp
GameFile41=cloakanddagger.esp
GameFile42=Complete Morrowind with BEER!.esp
GameFile43=constance1_0.esp
GameFile44=Creatures.esp
GameFile45=Daedric_Merchant.esp
GameFile46=Dagger of Symmachus.esp
GameFile47=DA_Sobitur_Facility_Clean.ESP
GameFile48=DA_Sobitur_Quest_Part_1 Clean.esp
GameFile49=DA_Sobitur_Quest_Part_2 Clean.esp
GameFile50=DA_Sobitur_YA_Compatibility.ESP
GameFile51=Dwemer_Cyborgs.esp
GameFile52=EarthlyDelights.esp
GameFile53=Emmas_Imperial_heads_1_0.esp
GameFile54=Emma_Imp_headp2.esp
GameFile55=Faction Hellos.esp
GameFile56=Fliggerty's Fleeing Fetchers.esp
GameFile57=Gatanas Markynaz Dremora Companion - Female.esp
GameFile58=Give your orders v13.esp
GameFile59=Grandmaster of Hlaalu.esp
GameFile60=Hide The Skooma.esp
GameFile61=Improved Bartering.esp
GameFile62=Infernal SummoningV1.1.esp
GameFile63=Killgore's Home Furnishings v1.1.esp
GameFile64=KS_Julan_Ashlander Companion_1.2.esp
GameFile65=k_howareyou.esp
GameFile66=Less_Generic_Bloodmoon.esp
GameFile67=Less_Generic_Nerevarine.esp
GameFile68=Less_Generic_Tribunal.esp
GameFile69=lfx_nerevarine_greetings.esp
GameFile70=LGNPC_Aldruhn_v1_20.esp
GameFile71=LGNPC_Aldruhn_v1_20_suppl.esp
GameFile72=LGNPC_AldVelothi_v1_20.esp
GameFile73=LGNPC_GnaarMok_v1_10.esp
GameFile74=LGNPC_HlaOad_v1_32.esp
GameFile75=LGNPC_Khuul_v2_10.esp
GameFile76=LGNPC_MaarGan_v1_20.esp
GameFile77=LGNPC_Pelagiad_v1_22.esp
GameFile78=LGNPC_SecretMasters_MCA5.esp
GameFile79=LGNPC_SecretMasters_v1_30.esp
GameFile80=Lgnpc_SN.esp
GameFile81=LGNPC_TelMora_v1_20.esp
GameFile82=LGNPC_TelUvirith_v1_20.esp
GameFile83=LGNPC_VivecFQ_v2_10.esp
GameFile84=LGNPC_VivecRedoran_v1_50.esp
GameFile85=Lilarcor_v4-1.esp
GameFile86=Mashed Lists.esp
GameFile87=Master Thief's Privileges.esp
GameFile88=MCA - COV Addon.esp
GameFile89=MCA - Guards Patch.esp
GameFile90=MCA - More Enemies.esp
GameFile91=MCA_5.2_Additional_Companions.esp
GameFile92=Morag Tong's Services.esp
GameFile93=Mzudarhk Manor.esp
GameFile94=Nerevarine_castle.esp
GameFile95=Nevena's Clubs & Courtiers 1.0.esp
GameFile96=Nevena's Ex-Slaves & Partners 1.5.esp
GameFile97=New Khajiit Diversity(CIV)X.esp
GameFile98=NG_New_Carnithus'_Armamentarium.esp
GameFile99=oc_imm_heads.esp
GameFile100=Patriarch's Privileges.esp
GameFile101=PMB Addon AlchemySorter.esp
GameFile102=PMB Addon bigger docking bay.esp
GameFile103=PMB Addon Cyborg Creator.esp
GameFile104=PMB Addon Supply.esp
GameFile105=PMB Addon Transport.esp
GameFile106=Princess Pocket Homes.esp
GameFile107=Private_Mobile_Base.esp
GameFile108=Private_Mobile_Base2.esp
GameFile109=Private_Mobile_Base3.esp
GameFile110=Private_Mobile_Base4.esp
GameFile111=Scout's Services.esp
GameFile112=Slof's Civilised Beasts Tails.esp
GameFile113=Slof's Civilised Beasts.esp
GameFile114=SoT_Order of Ascadia_V2.1.esp
GameFile115=SSlave_Companions.esp
GameFile116=Suran_Underworld_2.5.esp
GameFile117=The Imperial Legion Badge.esp
GameFile118=Upgradeable Shock Centurion.esp
GameFile119=Vivec Expansion 2.0.esp
GameFile120=Vivec Nerevarine Palace.esp
GameFile121=VTA_TravelBM+Trib.esp
GameFile122=Westly Presents-Dremora Markynaz.esp
GameFile123=Westly Presents_Creed of the Assassin.esp
GameFile124=Yagrum Advanced 2.0.esp
GameFile125=mel_teleportPlugin_1_2_Patches.esp
GameFile126=mel_teleportPlugin_1_2_JulanAddon.esp
GameFile127=mel_teleportPlugin_1_2.esp
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Daramis McGee
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:50 pm

Do you have music turned off? If so turn it on a notch.
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Miragel Ginza
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:06 am

This sounds like a hardware problem. Do you have similar problems with other games or applications?
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Monika Krzyzak
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:00 am

What do you mean, your game becomes unplayable when you get a companion? What companion mods are you using?

Also, wheatthin is right, there's a bug with the music. If you don't want to hear the music, just turn it up very slightly - it's fine as long as the volume is not 0.
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Jonny
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:16 am

If you disable all mods and start a new game do you get the same problem? If so it's not a mod problem and you'd be better off posting in the Hardware & Software forum

If you don't get the problem with mods disabled then please post your modlist (bottom of your morrowind.ini, [Game Files] section) and the contents of your warnings.txt file (found in the same directory as morrowind.ini)

[ :nerd: ]Oh, and it's not http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lag it's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frame_rate#Frame_rates_in_video_games. Morrowind's not a networked game. [/ :nerd: ]
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Lilit Ager
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:16 am

Wow, I did not intend to post that in that form, and I didn't think I did either. Damn these forums, sorry about the half-assed information. I've updated my OP with my modlist and a full explanation of the companion issue.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 9:46 am

I'd suggest looking at the sporadically low frame-rate in interiors first. Disable all mods. Reboot your PC and immediately after run DXDiag and paste the report into a thread in the Hardware & Software Forum. Check your Music slider.

On the companion issue are you running MGE and MWSE at the same time? Do you have both MGE's version of MWSE and the standalone version of MWSE enabled at the same time? If you are then select one of them (either don't run MWSE.exe or disable MGE's version through MGE GUI).
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Mrs Pooh
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:29 pm

Ah, the 0 volume music thing, I had clear out forgotten about that. That fixed it right up.

Just using MWSE 0.9.4.a and FPS Optimizer 1.96, not MGE or ME.

Edited: The interior lag thing I mean, that's fixed now, as far as I can tell. Thanks for the help so far all y'all.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:28 am

With Windows 7 and older games, you have to use compatibility mode and run it as an administrator most of the time. Right click on the Morrowind.exe file and select the compatibility tab - both options are under there.
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