Hypothetical ghoul society

Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:52 am

I think it would be cool if there was a society whose population was eventually turned into ghouhls but no skin problems because the doctor in the capital wasteland solved that problem. Woman would be turned at the age of 45 men 28. Anyone has the choice to leave. Woman who want children after the transformation could have inbytro fertilization. They would live hundreds of years and be able to carry on the proof suit of knowledge. The military would be a mix of ghouls, super mutants, robots, and animals.

I would love to see that one day. I thought of this 1 day. I think it would be cool. I wanted to share it with you all.

No not plastic surgery? Ghouls are created by massive amounts of radiation. With proper scientific study 1 could develop a process that transforms humans into ghouls. They should then be attended to for there skin condition and mind. So they don't go insane like jason bright , or other ghouls on the fast track to becoming ferral. Yes vainity is what us scientist like to call darwinism or natural selection. The catholics call it a sin and most north americans call it the American race. They are not imortal to trauma , but an advanced society could replace their atoms with indestructible ones. Though that would be hundreds of years of in scientific development.
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RaeAnne
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:11 am

Ghouls don't transform that way.
You can't "control" it's mutation.
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Benjamin Holz
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:25 pm

Ghouls don't transform that way.
You can't "control" it's mutation.


I think the poster is suggesting something a little more like plastic surgery.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:28 am

Um....RadiGhoulification = My Ovaris/Testicles are unable to produce, I do not grow I simply fall apart slowly..
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Frank Firefly
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:52 am

Just...eeeeeeeewwww.

A society full of http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Trash? Why?
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Gaelle Courant
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 5:12 am

I think the poster is suggesting something a little more like plastic surgery.

Plastic Surgery capable of making it's patients live hundreds of years?
I might just make an appointment there then. :)
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:22 am

I think this would be an interesting idea, if handled properly. Snobbish, vain, immortals obsesessed with maintaing their appearance.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 2:15 am

No not plastic surgery? Ghouls are created by massive amounts of radiation. With proper scientific study 1 could develop a process that transforms humans into ghouls. They should then be attended to for there skin condition and mind. So they don't go insane like jason bright , or other ghouls on the fast track to becoming ferral. Yes vainity is what us scientist like to call darwinism or natural selection. The catholics call it a sin and most north americans call it the American race. They are not imortal to trauma , but an advanced society could replace their atoms with indestructible ones. Though that would be hundreds of years of in scientific development.
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Russell Davies
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:45 pm

Figured if they moved it that it would kill the topic.
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Robert
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:07 am

I think this would be an interesting idea, if handled properly. Snobbish, vain, immortals obsesessed with maintaing their appearance.


You just described elves.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 2:12 am

No not plastic surgery? Ghouls are created by massive amounts of radiation. With proper scientific study 1 could develop a process that transforms humans into ghouls. They should then be attended to for there skin condition and mind. So they don't go insane like jason bright , or other ghouls on the fast track to becoming ferral. Yes vainity is what us scientist like to call darwinism or natural selection. The catholics call it a sin and most north americans call it the American race. They are not imortal to trauma , but an advanced society could replace their atoms with indestructible ones. Though that would be hundreds of years of in scientific development.

So you mean subject the radiation to a certain part of the body to stop aging? Radiation cannot be concentrated and controlled, it will spread through the whole body. Theres not really away to turn them into a ghoul and take the skin effects away either. So you're basically want a non-ghoulish ghoul?
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:56 am

Figured if they moved it that it would kill the topic.


Nah. Can't kill what's stillborn to begin with.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:53 am

That was really rude and sick if that's how your humor is. Stilborns are a very serious thing and if you get a laugh out that you need help

Do you know how radiation works? A decaying particly flings off pick des off itself splitting dna . A massive amount of energy and radiation is required for transformation but it is possible to duplicate this into a process that anyone who understands basic science could sit comfortably with the math and science. I don't know that it has to be targeted to become one, since all have been random.

On the last bit to explain in fallout 3 during the quest rileys rangers you go to the chop shop in the underworld located in a museum in the ruins that ghouls have hauled up in. The doctor is successful y research img a means to return a ghouls skin to its previous state. To break it down fir you ghouls skin no longer divide so the telemeres or ankled s in the ends of there cells never get shorter. It is possible to reverse this on the skin so that it regenerates and retains its new found immortality. Im sorry if that's a bit over anyones head.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:15 am

Why do women get turned at the age of 45 and men at only 28?

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I had other questions, but I decided to just go with the one that seemed least relevant to the topic lol.

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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:36 pm

I mean they could just develop a way to reverse the necrosis via Stem Cells, glowing Stem Cells.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:52 am

I thought of that too but im not sure the effect stem cells have on dead tissue. You see there stem cells no longer divide so there telemers don't split. Im not sure introducing stem cells into these mutated stem cells would have the desired effect. It might make them mortal again.

Woman hit menopause around there. Meaning they can't really reproduce as easily then. Men pysically peak around the age of 28. I said that because since they can't make new cells they technically can't age like a vampire hahaha.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:54 pm

I meant there telemers don't shorten. But I realize now that the introduced stem cells would just copy the mutated ones so maybe that could work.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:37 pm

Im sorry if that's a bit over anyones head.


Wow. Didn't your overbearingly smug condescension already get http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1141888-hypothetical-weapon/ closed?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:34 pm

Ah, the condescending in this thread is palpable.

Anyway, your idea makes no sense. Judging by what alot of the Fallout Series seems to give us, isolation and random strokes of fates unmerciful hand play a part in going feral. As for Ghouls, if a ghoul had smooth regular skin, they wouldnt be ghouls, they'd be people.

Also, an army of an amalgram of various Wasteland species happeend in that weird game Fallout:Tactics. Besides, the NCR takes ghouls as rangers, as evidence around Camp Golf and the camp near Cottonwood Cove.

Edit- For the future, no matter how many verbose and well woven words you type, no matter what you copy from Wikipedia, it doesn't make you any better than anyone here, You continuously go about apologizing for your thoughts 'going over peoples heads'. You need to be more respectful to the users around here. I apologize if I come off as insulting, but it just isnt polite that most if not every thread of yours I see seems to talk down to us.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:00 pm

why don't you try to create it yourself in the GECK?
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:08 am

I think this would be an interesting idea, if handled properly. Snobbish, vain, immortals obsesessed with maintaing their appearance.

Then you have vampires. Probably the twilight kind.

That was really rude and sick if that's how your humor is. Stilborns are a very serious thing and if you get a laugh out that you need help

Do you know how radiation works? A decaying particly flings off pick des off itself splitting dna . A massive amount of energy and radiation is required for transformation but it is possible to duplicate this into a process that anyone who understands basic science could sit comfortably with the math and science. I don't know that it has to be targeted to become one, since all have been random.

There's no way that could be safe if your still relying on radioactivity to trigger the mutations. The chance for damaging mutations, and cell death would be high. It'd be much safer to try other routes besides ghouldom.

On the last bit to explain in fallout 3 during the quest rileys rangers you go to the chop shop in the underworld located in a museum in the ruins that ghouls have hauled up in. The doctor is successful y research img a means to return a ghouls skin to its previous state. To break it down fir you ghouls skin no longer divide so the telemeres or ankled s in the ends of there cells never get shorter. It is possible to reverse this on the skin so that it regenerates and retains its new found immortality. Im sorry if that's a bit over anyones head.

I don't see how his research can be described as successful when he has not found a working solution to the ghoul problem. Also, considering that their skin is literally rotting away, we don't have much reason to believe that the skin cells enjoy the biological immortality of other organs.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:52 am

Not sure plastic Surg. would help all that much unfortunatly.

The only thing we really know about the process of ghoulification is that it is hella fast.

That chick in Megaton went ghoul almost instantly.

We also know that the balance between feral, and ghoul is a hard line to walk.

I honestly figured the White Glove folks where ghouls with masks... could do some sorta creepy town where all the people wore long sleeves, and masks...

Still going to be hard to 'mask' the voice thing though.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 9:46 am

I think this would be an interesting idea, if handled properly. Snobbish, vain, immortals obsesessed with maintaing their appearance.

A society of Madonnas, and I ain't talking about the virgin kind.
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