My little boys : IV - Oblivion

» Wed May 30, 2012 9:46 pm

Do they jump all the time? Because my son does, even though he never gets to the level where that would be useful.
He joins the mages guild, then loots every guild hall. If it isn't nailed down he takes it. Makes about five thousand gold per guild hall lol, I tell him that it would be easier and less trips involved if he just hit a dungeon or cave, but that would mean going outside the city walls... so yeah.

There's talk about going to Kvatch, and seeing what it's all about... I'm shocked, it has taken him 2 years now, to even consider going outside.

They don't jump, they do go outside but run away from anything but mudcrabs and wolves. They have been through Kvatch and, with my help, got through the gates. It was pretty cool.

Have you watched kids cartoons? The amount of sixual puns that are in them is astounding, yet they were shown to kids.. heck I used to listen to a song as a kid that I thought was just about fast food til my friend pointed out the lyrics were in fact highly sixual, yet it was recorded for kids! But six is not really a taboo amongst the 'younger' generation of teens in western cultures so we can find sixual references in cartoons from the 1990's

Saying that also - there is a high number of people in western cultures that are young teenagers, some just shy of becoming a teenager, who end up as parents from their own parents with the attitude of 'if I don't expose my kid to it, they'll be safe'. That's not to say that attitude is wrong, I certainly wouldn't expose young children to anything sixual...I just wanna point out that there isn't always a happy ending with not exposing them at an earlier age than advlthood.

on topic though..
OP: I do hope my kids enjoy it as much as yours do when I have them :biggrin:

I'd love for them to be immersed in such great games :happy:

. I'd probably be similar to you with rules until they convinced me they could handle the game on their own so I hope they enjoy it just as much.

If you take the time to explain the lore to them the game takes a different meaning for them. They love the lore as much as the game and are constantly asking me questions about the races and the land.

» Thu May 31, 2012 6:52 am

They don't jump, they do go outside but run away from anything but mudcrabs and wolves. They have been through Kvatch and, with my help, got through the gates. It was pretty cool.

If you take the time to explain the lore to them the game takes a different meaning for them. They love the lore as much as the game and are constantly asking me questions about the races and the land.

Kids asking about lore?! I have met one kid who was at all interested in older game systems like the GBC. I was playing my GBC at church and a little girl was curious about the thing. I do remember one time when the DS was still new and I was playing mine and someone went up and asked, "Is that a Game Boy?" A kid asked that, by that way. I bet someone asked, "Is that a DS?" when they saw someone playing a 3DS. I have met one kid who was only allowed to play NES games.

I have never met a single kid who cared about lore of any game. Not even Pokemon. I'm am becoming amazed here. People who are 6 and 7 caring about lore. This is just too alien for my 17 year old self.

Also, they must know that Mudcrabs are horrible creatures. Too bad Oblivion doesn't have any drunk rich Mudcrab merchants. Or drunk, rich scamp merchants who might be sneaking peeks at the orc lady who doesn't wear pants...

» Thu May 31, 2012 9:00 am

My partner, Brash Endeavors, created one of Morrowind's first total conversions: http://morrowind4kids.com/. She had two daughters, both age 9, living with her at the time who liked to watch her work. Brash made a fairy companion, someone who would pop up at different points in the story to offer guidance. And at one point this fairy glitched and appeared with no clothes on. Her daughters were scandalized. They chastised their mother for doing such a thing. The story about how Brash horrified her daughters by creating a topless fairy is still told in this household, nearly ten years later. The moral Brash draws from this anecdote is that children are inherently conservative. :wink:

» Wed May 30, 2012 10:13 pm

Have you watched kids cartoons? The amount of sixual puns that are in them is astounding, yet they were shown to kids.. heck I used to listen to a song as a kid that I thought was just about fast food til my friend pointed out the lyrics were in fact highly sixual, yet it was recorded for kids! But six is not really a taboo amongst the 'younger' generation of teens in western cultures so we can find sixual references in cartoons from the 1990's

I do watched some western and Japanese cartoon when i was young, at that time i don't know if anything sixual. I watch Disney "Little Mermaid" and i love it. Only today when i interested in all the "Illuminati/Satanic/Secret Society Conspiracy" kind of thing i know there are some sixual stuff in it. I didn't realized it back then, just enjoy the songs, the animation, i watched it with my sister and cousins.

Saying that also - there is a high number of people in western cultures that are young teenagers, some just shy of becoming a teenager, who end up as parents from their own parents with the attitude of 'if I don't expose my kid to it, they'll be safe'. That's not to say that attitude is wrong, I certainly wouldn't expose young children to anything sixual...I just wanna point out that there isn't always a happy ending with not exposing them at an earlier age than advlthood.

My sister did ask me about sixual stuffs when she is at 20s when she have a boyfriend, and i share with her what i know through my readings and watching, well there is internet...and movies... :blush:

No one told me about sixual thing in my life. everything about it i find them myself. She ask me not because she want six, she was virgin, she just curious. My sister married last year, now she have a very cute baby and lovely husband. I am kind of jealous, i am still single....

» Thu May 31, 2012 4:51 am

I love how all of you are talking about the six parts of Oblivion: of which there are none, and only references and innuendo in a couple of situations.
My kids and I were watching the Kids Choice Awards this year. My daughter, almost a teenager, is way beyond all of this. But my son, is in love with Selena Gomez.
Taylor Swift came out and talked about her song about bullying, and how bullying and violence is wrong.
First Lady Michelle Obama came out and talked about how bullying and violence is wrong.
*After a short commercial break*
WWE wrestlers come out in a full ring set up on stage and proceed to beat the crap out of each other.
My daughter turned to me, looked me in the eye and said, "WTH?"
Then she said, "Welcome to America."

Just sayin.

» Thu May 31, 2012 6:37 am

Awesome that they like it though i understand the no killing part, seeing decap when you're 7 can be disturbing.

» Thu May 31, 2012 1:11 am

Kids asking about lore?! I have met one kid who was at all interested in older game systems like the GBC. I was playing my GBC at church and a little girl was curious about the thing. I do remember one time when the DS was still new and I was playing mine and someone went up and asked, "Is that a Game Boy?" A kid asked that, by that way. I bet someone asked, "Is that a DS?" when they saw someone playing a 3DS. I have met one kid who was only allowed to play NES games.

I have never met a single kid who cared about lore of any game. Not even Pokemon. I'm am becoming amazed here. People who are 6 and 7 caring about lore. This is just too alien for my 17 year old self.

Also, they must know that Mudcrabs are horrible creatures. Too bad Oblivion doesn't have any drunk rich Mudcrab merchants. Or drunk, rich scamp merchants who might be sneaking peeks at the orc lady who doesn't wear pants...

They absolutely ask about it. Maybe not the details of the origin of the AD or the exact happening surrounding Red mountain or the precise Era in which these events took place, but heck, they are only 6 and 7. They ask simple questions like why the Dunmer are blue (and before you question that, I taught them the real names of the races) and where each race lives. i took out a map of Tamriel and showed them. They ask questions about magic and attributes an dwhy some races have them and some don't. Why can Khajiit see at night. They ask about Vampires and Werewolves and how they became them. They ask about Ghosts and why the Dunmer can summon a ghost. They ask why Bosmers can become vampires if they can resist diseses, and yes they learned that vampirism is a disease. Come to think about it, they did ask how the Dunmer lived if the giant volcano erupted and all the lava spille dout of it. maybe I will talk to them and teach them about the Ashlanders next. So yes, kids do ask about and are interested inthe lore. I am teaching them that this is more than just a game and one day I will have them read the novels and the lore online as well.