Ive come across quite a few homosixual references in New Vegas, some of which seem to be companion related.

According to Major Knight at the Mojave Outpost (if you have the Confirmed Bachelor perk), while the NCR military tends to frown upon homosixuality, Caesar's Legions are pretty accepting of it, as is the NCR itself.

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They also live together in intimate and cramped quarters despite there being more than plenty of room in Rivet City. I think the chances are good that they like to put on the other version of prewar relaxed wear behind closed doors. I just can't pick the lock fast enough to catch them.

In FO:NV

also in FO2 there is a race of Super Mutants called the Super Duper Mutants which has led me to reconsider all of the implications of the word 'Super' and consider how it applies to the androgenous green guys who seem to have a kind of "Super duper Mutant Pride" thing going on.

Hell yeah, they're everywhere in Vegas:
-There's a gay male prosttute in West Side at the Apartment complex.
-Santiago, the man-[censored] you recruit for the Atomic Wrangler is gay.
-Scribe Veronica is a lisbian.
--Old Ben swings both ways.
-The NCR sniper from "I Don't Hurt Anymore" in FONV went lisbian to get over her trauma from Cook-Cook's buggery of her.
-Arcade Gannon in FONV is implied to be gay.

I guess with the Resource Wars and nuclear war with China looming, the quasi-50's culture of the FO Universe before and after the bomb didn't keep people in the closet like in the real 50's... Oh well, as long as my helper doesn't hit on me or try to mount me, they can travel with me.

In one of your conversations with her she talks about how her girlfriend left the brotherhood and how the brotherhood didn't approve of their relationship since they don't recruit outsiders so they need their members to reproduce to fill their ranks.

How in the world did I miss that? Wow. Veronica is my favorite character, I can't believe I didn't notice that! And she makes so many sixual jokes, I guess I just assumed she was straight...

Also, Arcade is more than "implied" to be gay. He makes at least two direct references to male relationships, that I can recall.


One more thing: My interpretation of the NCR soldier's statement about homosixuality in the Legion was that it was just rumor, possible spread with slanderous intentions given the NCR's disapproval of homosixuality.

"The ways to create a Laser Rifle is lost, but everybody knows how to make another human." - Elder Lyons

semi-spoilers for FO:NV if you consider knowing a character is homosixual a spoiler.

Gannon in FO:NV, isn't out and proud about it but he will tell the PC subtly.

Of course you as a player can be in FO2, and FO:NV, not sure about FO3. In fact in NV there's a perk for it, Cherchez la Femme that's the lisbian version of Black Widow, you get bonus damage to females and bonus dialogue options when interacting with characters that might be seduced that way.

Ms. Bishop in FO2 would go to bed with a female character IIRC, however with her in general consent and knowledge of what's happening around her is in question given she's been using low-grade Jet for years since her husband hooked her on it.

Likewise in FO:NV Rose of Sharon Cassidy admits to having had lisbian one-night-stands when intoxicated, but like Mrs. Bishop above... it's up to interpretation if she's really bisixual and closeted enough she won't act on it unless her inhibitions are lowered, or she's bisixual in the drunken makeout college girl sort of way.

I took Cherchez la Femme on my female energy/smart character in hopes of getting... ahem... closer to Scribe Veronica. However she is to hung up on the chick who left her :sadvaultboy: .

I did find out

I have the bad feeling it was a waist of a perk though since my speech skill is almost maxed, and so far all it is, is a way around speech hang ups.

how interesting. ya FO doesn't really shy away from any subject matter now does it?

The thing I really like about the way Obsidian handled it in New Vegas is that, really, it's so downplayed you almost wouldn't know its there at a glance.


For instance, being the heterosixual male I am, my character never really even uncovered the fact that Gannon was into men. At all.

Then again, the one gay friend I have... I didn't really know he was gay either... so maybe I'm just not very good on picking up on that kind of thing?


But it really is inserted into the game-world in a way that, unless you're looking really hard for it or stumble into just the right place, you don't really notice. It's just as much a part of life as everything else, and seems for the most part that as long as you aren't shoving your sixuality down someone else's throat... the citizens of the Fallout Universe really just don't give a damn.

Which makes sense. They've got better things to do... like not get eaten by cannibals and Deathclaws.

As long as developers don't go out of their way to make it known, Then I am good. I honestly don't give a rats ___ if anyone is homo or not. Obsidian did a good job.

I refuse to use the term "gay" as the real definition of that word has been lost and I don't want to promote its incorrect usage.

There is DEFINITELY more gays and lisbians in F:NV than in FO3. Isn't it rumored that The Lone Wanderer is gay?

I think Obsidian did it pretty well in New Vegas. As much as some people don't want people running around yelling about being homosixual, I don't want people running around yelling about being heterosixual, and shoving their sixuality down someone everyone's/my throat - In New Vegas you only find out about npc's sixuality, whether homosixual or hetero, if you go out of your way and talk to people. And with some npc's, you only find out if you take certain perks. Nobody's sixuality is in your face or really hidden. So I think they did a good job.

If it wasn't rumoured before, you just started that rumour, so it is now.

More than one of my Lone Wanderers was.


Only one was a male character, and he took over Tenpenny tower with his fancy suit and devilish charms... then proceeded to lord over the place from on high with his snazzy hat and a monocle some generous modder was so kind to provide. Actually, he wasn't homosixual though... so that doesn't count. He was just magnificently well-dressed, and entirely sixually indiscriminate. Male, female, both, two legs, one leg, ghoul...

Ah, the life of opulence suited him well.


Had a few homosixual/bisixual female characters, as well... but usually only if they were 'Working Girls' up at Moriarty's/Evergreen Mills Bazaar/Rivet City

I think that would count as bisixual.

It is fascinating how many people I have run into on these forums who are into ghouls. Kinky.

yeah,u can sleep with bishops wife(Fallout 2 i believe)regardless if ur man or woman,also the barber at kings is like 95 percent gay.

Don't know exactly what the official post-war stance is on the matter, but the Pre-War stance on it was that it was a social disease. You can find out about that in Point look out at this Missionary camp (look it up on fallout wiki). They considered it as one of the problems of Communism. In the Pre-War Homosixuality would have been shunned openly, and probably landed you jail time. This is why I don't understand why post-war Fallout would actually have openly homosixual characters, doesn't seem ideologically to go in step with the universe espcially in Fallout New Vegas where Vault city (NCR) would have probably have had the same societal norms as Pre-War America. But anyways yeah Point Look out missionary camp, there is your answer.

Given that 1950's attitudes seem to apply pre war, and the "Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders" (the big book of everything that could possibly be wrong with people mentally) current during that period (1952 is the first publishing) considered Homosixuality a mental Illness (it would not be removed until 1973), I think your anolysis is spot on (with the possibility of being committed to a mental institution also added to the Jailtime for Sodomy possibility).

I think what i got out of fallout was there was no concept of being homosixual, i think generally they had six with whoever because they wanted to, its generally a pretty crappy world to live in and i think if they wanted to have six for enjoyment they did, and i dont think that they decided to put a name or a label on it, if you did you did, if you didnt you didnt, it basically didnt put you in a classification.

You could interpret it that way, but by using the euphemism "friendships" he could have meant that ANY romantic relationships are frowned upon in the military, heterosixual or homosixual. The NCR military could still accept gays/lisbians as soldiers. There has been a lot of time for attitudes to evolve on that. The Fallout universe does not appear to me to be conservative. The Kings have an effeminate hairdresser for crying out loud. I don't think there is much homophobia to speak of. Prejudice is against factions, not race or sixuality.