Please read this first:

- I'm new to the community, and Oblivion in general, so please mind my stupidity.

- I play Oblivion on my brother's computer, since my own laptop is Windows Vista, and I'd rather not ask more questions than necessary. My brother would have probably been able to help me, but he's in Japan for another four months. (Yay, unrelated topic!)

Anyways, here are the problems.

1) When I attempt to load up Oblivion, it gets stuck in the loading screen for let's say, OVER 9000 hours... or when I decide to turn the computer off.

2) TES Construction Set has a tendency to freeze and crash when I'm opening my data files for some editing. It went from super-fast to super-slow in a matter of... a few hours with some modding sites. Sigh. I'm positive I don't have that many mods, so I don't know why that's happening.

3) If I manage to open up TES Construction Set without crashing, everything will run fine until I attempt to save. I'll press the button, it'll appear to save for a moment, and then the whole thing just crashes. It's an oddly neat crash, but it's a crash nevertheless.

4) I downloaded Sulteric Drums's Stoker Wolff (Male Companion), and there's a whole set of problems right there.

Before I start on the problems, here's the link to the download.

Probelm #1: The NPC's poor face has suffered from plastic surgery. He has been faceless, excluding his shiny teeth, which left me relatively disturbed until it was fixed by the Facial Fix. However, his face is now black. It's not pitch-black, as you can see his nose and mouth, and eye sockets. Yes, he doesn't have deep, mesmerizing eyes either. -cry- Fortunately, his silky black hair has been left alone. I'm guessing I'm missing a few textures and/or meshes?

Problem #2: When I tell the NPC to change into his armor and follow me, his body disappears and I can see his sheathed weapon. It's very scary to walk around with a faceless, body-less head and glowing weapon trailing after you. Very scary.

By the way: don't judge me! I"m a growing girl with hormones and a need for romance!! x)

I've figured that the problems are probably my conflicting mods, which leads to a strange fact. I used BOSS to fix my load order, and then I checked for conflicts with OBMM. ...There were so many conflicts.

I'm still really, really new to the game, so I haven't quite gotten the hang of load orders yet. I'd try it myself, but I seriously do not want to mess up my game further.

Here's my load order:



I don't know what some of the mods are, as this used to be my brother's game.

I know it seems as though I'm not too worried about the messed up game. It's only because I'm not(yet) addicted to Oblivion, alright?

Heeeelp.

Hi there and welcome to the forum. :wavey:


I hope you didn't play much in Oblivion, because I think you should uninstall Oblivion+TES CS and install Oblivion+CS again.

Just uninstall both CS+Oblivion (in that order) and http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1139580-help-me/page__view__findpost__p__16663039.

Reboot. Try now to install Oblivion+CS and these tools. You probably need to reboot between each tools installation just do so.

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1131224-relz-oblivion-script-extender-obse-0019/, http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2097, http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1138211-relz-boss-better-oblivion-sorting-software/, http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1136734-relz-wrye-bash-thread-54/ and http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1136566-relz-unofficial-oblivion-patch-320-unofficial-patch-supplementals/


You should definitely read every link there is on http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/ site to know more about Oblivion and mods. :read:
I know that's probably to much for you to digest, but you're always welcome to ask your question here so that anyone else can help you.

Thanks for the welcome!

I already have OBSE, OBMM, BOSS, Wrye Bash, & UOP. Will I need to uninstall & reinstall?

Anyways, thank you for taking the time to read my post and reply.

Is all of them working without any problems?
Have you rebuild the bashed patch in Wrye Bash yet?

You're welcome.

Here's an update on what I've been doing:

First, I uninstalled CS & Oblivion like you said. I rebooted, reinstalled Oblivion & CS, patched it, and rebooted again just in case. Then, I tried to run it. Everything appears to work fine until I get stuck in the loading screen again. Unfortunately, it crashed. It's a neat crash, woohoo, but still a crash. Apparently, it couldn't find the master file 'Knights.esp'. Confused and disappointed, I went to my BFF, Google, and voila, a solution! I ended up uninstalling Oblivion and deleting pretty much everything, which was actually pretty fast, excluding my Data & Saved Games folders that I backed up. I rebooted, reinstalled Oblivion, patched it, rebooted again, and ran it. It worked! I guess all I needed was a squeaky-clean reinstall.

Now, all I have to do is see if it'll work with my mods.

I feel accomplished. x]

That's good news and enjoy your game. bliviongate:

I think you should also use Yacoby's http://search2.yacoby.net/ when you're looking for mods.

AAGH, NO!

Something went wrong. Again. -sob

I had a corrupted master file, so I had to reinstall and etc. Then, when I test Oblivion, it crashes. I remove the mods and try again. No crash. I click New Game to test it out further. Something weird happens then.

It takes me to the Character Creation screen, and it looks messed up. There are black words ("Race" etc), and I can't use my mouse. I can move my mouse around, but I can't click anything. I attempt to exit through trusty Esc, and then I realize that I can only navigate the game through the arrow keys. Apparently, < & > = ^ & v, and the "Enter" is like clicking.

I'm gonna uninstall and follow your steps again.

I'm saaaaaaaaad.

What went wrong?
I want my Saturday baaaack. -cry

Yes. Something is definitely wrong so I would like to examine your loadorder.
The easiest way to post your LO is through Wrye Bash and click on the "Mod Checker" button in the left bottom corner. From there just click on "Copy" and post your LO here. In the mod checker window you should also notice if there were any conflict with the installed mods. That information is very useful please include that too.

Do any esm/esp has a colour which is not blue or green? Please use their file names and colour if you see any.


Btw... I guess that you can't take http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/?page=oblivion_ini_tweaks, but that could be useful if you could.

Personally I use http://www.imageshack.us/ to upload my pics. Very handy if you want to share your pics.

Let's see...

I was in the process of uninstalling before I read your reply, so I can't check for conflicts unless I install again. I remember that Fran's mods, Stoker Wolff, and a lot more were conflicted, though. Sorry! x(

My load order didn't change.

I suggest that you take closer look of these mods below and correct them.

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp - you can safely remove that modKvatch Rebuilt.esp - if you have 1.0 version installed you could have dirty references in that mod and cleaning is needed Bag of Holding.esp - the latest version is above 3.0 and an update would cause no harmHouseMapMarkersOnlyBought.esp - you should install the Map Marker Overhaul by TheNiceOne DLCBattlehornCastle.esp - there is a levelled item in that mod so you can install Quest Award Leveller - DLCBattlehornCastle.espQuest Award Leveller.espQuest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.espQuest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.espAlternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp - this mod must be loaded after the bashed patch and probably in the last slot in any LO

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I wonder what these mods have for propose? I haven't see them before in any mod list. :unsure:

++LIBRARY==================.esp++LIBRARY+1================.esp++COSMETIC=================.esp++CLOTHING=================.espPersonal.esp

Perhaps you should wait to install http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1122753-relz-fcom-convergence-and-ufcom/ and http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=17743 until your other mods is working.

Alright! Sorry I hadn't updated yesterday; had to get ready for school.

I've updated and corrected the mods like you said. Oh, and for the sake of both our time, I've removed the mods you couldn't recognize. If it causes my computer to spontaneously combust, then so be it. I've decided to keep Stoker Wolff in my mods, since he already has a whole .esm dedicated to his story, and tons and TONS of textures/voices/etc. Sorry in advance if it'll be more work for us.

When I checked for the conflicts on OBMM, it stated that I was missing the plugin "housemapmarketsonlybought.esp" so I put it back in. (Luckily, I'd put the file in my Backup folders.)

Whoa. That's a lot of conflicts. -sob
Here are the green/blue, red, and black mods.
(By the way, I like to post my load orders and etc. in spoilers, since it takes up less room.)

Green/Blue:



Red:



Black:



I'm scared to start the game, lol.

That's okay.

You should definitely use both BOSS and Wrye Bash to track down any mod conflict there is in your LO, but only use OBMM as a last resort when you have tried everything. Another tool you can use at any time is http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=11536 which allows you to a clean a mod or save if you know of how. I have used that tool a few times, so I can only suggest that you post your problem in Oblivion mods forum instead.


You don't need to touch these mods unless something is really weird. :twirl:


You should not use OBMM to handle these mods, because some of these can only work properly when you're using BOSS and Wrye Bash.
I strongly suggest that you follow these instructions to narrow down these mods with a red colour.

- uninstall FCOM and follow http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/?page=guides_mod_installation
- let BOSS handle Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp and StokerWolff.esp to decide which is needed to be the last one
- rebuild the bashed patch in Wrye Bash and *abuse* the mod checker feature there is in Wrye Bash for every mod you're installing
- if you're not sure to do next you can always read theses threads (http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1138211-relz-boss-better-oblivion-sorting-software/, http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1136734-relz-wrye-bash-thread-54/, http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1136566-relz-unofficial-oblivion-patch-320-unofficial-patch-supplementals/, http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1106994-tesivpositive-installation-guides/)

This mod has a missing master.

Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp - must have DLCVileLair.esp installed first

Don't be, I will do my best to help you out.

Sorry for the late reply! I caught a cold and it's been sniffles and coughing for me. Anyways, I've reinstalled my mods manually and tested the ones I currently use, and BOSS'd around 100 times. Everything's all good! Thanks so much. x)

You're welcome.


I assume you have the TES Construction Set fixed as well, but if you didn't I'm still here to assist you. :user: