Oh,well... never mind then.(and no, it's not NMA, MH is... nevermind.)

The scope of the Vault Dweller only lasted until he realised he was too old. The village was essentially unfinished. We don't even know how the Vault Dweller contributed to the settlement, he founded a Village originally just for somewhere to live in peace, he could have settled in anyone of the towns he came accross in his travels, but he got away from it all. I guess what he didn't expect was the responsibility that came with the arrival of other settlers and any other variables that would have challenged his will for a quiet life.

True. I always kind of took it as sort of the same thing as the Indiana Jones movies (where apparently every ancient civilization spent all of their time making elaborate temples full of traps that still manage to function despite being centuries old - but without a bit of suspension of disbelief you aren't going to have much of a movie.) Kind of like the radiation, mutations, and basically the entire game setting - I don't think it's something you're supposed to think about too much (because it all starts to fall apart under close scrutiny.)

I kind of liked Fallout 2 for starting you out as a Tribal, but different strokes for different folks. I really enjoyed in Fallout 2 starting out at a lower level of technology; so it made the whole loot progression just a little bit more drawn-out. (In Fallout 1, the 10mm Pistol is a weapon you throw away as soon as you start finding better gear, or at best something you keep around in case you run out of other ammo types - in Fallout 2, it's something you actually have to work for.)

Other then some rather iconic visual pieces that are truely American, there is really little in the way of substance as far as towns, villages and settlements go.

I never played the first two, and im glad about it actually. A lot of people seemed pretty morbid about the idea of another company creating a 3rd version of there game and then critisised the game without playing it saying it destroyed the FO1 and 2.
Seems though i refuse to watch Dragonball: Evoloution because i think it destroys the nature of the cartoon series i would say that i'd probably be the same... Or maybe its just that the movie looks crap.

Which it did [IMO] ~But you cannot begin to perceive why for having not played the first two. To put it plane in another way... A good many of those that "Criticized the game without playing it", saw plainly what to expect [both from Bethesda's reputation and their press pieces] ~and once they did play it... they [I at least] saw that it was very close to the guess.

If someone tells you the candy tastes like a lemon (and you know what a lemon is).... then its no surprise when you taste it and find it to be super sour. ~Saying , "but how can you know without tasting it?" doesn't make sense to me.

Fallout 3 is its own beast (a lemon drop in a bag of mints). It seemingly has only a few names and a mascot in common with the rest of the series. Is it an impressive game? absolutely; Did it gut & shoehorn the series into Bethesda's home court [style] and abandon the core of the established franchise? IMO absolutely. (Did it have to... because its a different company? I'd have to say 'no'.)

Would you like it if the next [official] GEARS of War game if it were stated to be a game about robotic tanks? Where you calculate the best angle to shoot at your opponent? ~Would you call it a sequel?

In this case, imagine a new series was made, and the previous ones were ignored/re-envisioned; The art style looked like Final Fantasy the movie, and "Mr. Satan / Hercule" is seen to train really really hard, learns to fly without a jetpack, and defeats Goku in a tournament with his "Megaton Punch" :rofl:

Well, it's better than nothing. If beth didn't buy Fallout franchise there won't be any other Fallout games, just face it. Alright, maybe it's not a good solution either (afterall I'm also an "old-school" fan), but if beth didn't (harshly <_< )resurrect Fallout franchise, who will? Interplay was dying, Obsidian didn't have the money, Bioware wasn't interested, etc. Yeah I know that Fallout shouldn't be resurrected, but c'mon there won't be another good Fallout game, many developers today is like beth... always follow the money. Well, my point is if Beth resurrected the franchise, there is a hope that they will make (or permit someone to make) van buren or something similiar, even though it's unlikely(but always remember, there is nothing impossible, even for beth).

The tribal stuff was lame, so I'm well pleased at the shift.

There's nothing to face. There were other companies interested in the franchise, Bethesda was simply the highest bidder. If Beth didn't buy it, someone else would, and there would be a Fallout 3 either way. Of course, there's no way telling whether it would be better or worse than Beth's.

I see... but I still hate the tribal concept though.

anyway,(here we go again :hehe: ) are you the same Ausir from the fallout bible? you know, the one who "whoring" his website.

he's the one who runs the Fallout wiki "The Vault".....

Not so, but it would seem that much (most?) of the original fanbase would have been "OK with that"

I can't see them allowing that. They might sell it if their future efforts tank... but that won't happen [too many TES style shooter fans].

I could have waited another ten, for an intentionally "more faithful" sequel [See Diablo 3, Disciples 3, and Arx Fatalis], and its not wholly about graphics either (graphics are always bottom of the list IMO).

~Icing to finish off a grand cake... I prefer my cake 90% cake, not 90% icing [no matter how good it tastes].

The devs have been very clear they will not release or permit to release any Van Buren code. They have it in their possession to pick apart as they see fit, just like the rest of the series.


Ausir is Fallout. He is the sole authority and Bethesda should be taking orders from him on the Fallout effort

Well... that doesn't mean they can't change their mind, but yeah I'm just thingking positive -_-

and for the second one, :rofl: I know, I know

but my question is, is this Ausir the same Ausir from the fallout bible? just curious.

I don't mind that DC lags behind the west. I imagine as the capital it got hit much harder than most areas of the country. It sounds like there's better stuff up north with the Commonwealth. Maybe the BoS incursion helped trigger some real growth in the Capital Wastelands.

Yes.