akavari invasion

Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:30 am

anyway the question is what type of akavari attacked cyrodil ive heard that there is a gorilla like race and a lizard and that there was a human but it was wiped out.
also i was expecting to see some differences when i entered pale pass but it seems all the skeletons are human, does this mean that if we ever see the akavari there just gonna be more humans?
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Charlotte X
 
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 8:16 pm

The Pale Pass thing was a budget issue. No use making a whole new skeleton model and all, so disregard that. It was the Tsaesci who invaded there back in 1E 2702, which is what I assume you mean. There have been other Akaviri invasions, on both sides. See TIl's http://www.imperial-library.info/akavir/index.shtml
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:27 am

Luckily, budget issues can become pretty interesting if http://www.imperial-library.info/fsg/adanorcilarticle2.shtml.

In addition, the Tang Mo of Akavir are monkeys, not gorillas (which are apes). The ape humanoid archetypes in Tamriel are the Imga of Valenwood.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:21 am

thanks for that
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 10:47 am

Of course, there's also the issue of the Akaviri ghost having a human form. Not to mention that the Akaviri at the fort wore armor and used shields, when the Tsaesci supposedly never wore armor or used shields (the skeletons didn't wear any, but the commander's ghost was clearly wearing armor).

As for your searches, if you used "akavari" instead of "akaviri", you probably wouldn't get anything.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:40 am

I've always wondered why they didn't use an argonian model for the commander. Even if tsasci don't look exactly like argonians, they'd at least be reptilian. Also, I thought they used armor in the style of what became the blades' armor, since the blades are into all things akaviri. "History of the Fighter's Guild" only establishes that they couldn't wear the same armor designed for a nord.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:38 am

I've always wondered why they didn't use an argonian model for the commander. Even if tsasci don't look exactly like argonians, they'd at least be reptilian. Also, I thought they used armor in the style of what became the blades' armor, since the blades are into all things akaviri. "History of the Fighter's Guild" only establishes that they couldn't wear the same armor designed for a nord.

Yes, the Blades use Akaviri weapons and armor, and Cloud Ruler Temple is an Akaviri fortress. This is interesting, as all literary references to the Akaviri depict them as beastmen, specifically the tsasci, the ones whom we derive all things "Akaviri" in Cyrodiil, who are seen as beastmen. And considering that all of the areas in Pale Pass give references to serpents, as does the artifact at the end, make it all even more confusing.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:20 am

Wasn't the Pale Pass thing cleared up with the TIL case study?

Aside from that, the Blades don't use Akaviri armor, given that Tsaesci where next to no armor.
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 7:38 pm

Wasn't the Pale Pass thing cleared up with the TIL case study?

Aside from that, the Blades don't use Akaviri armor, given that Tsaesci where next to no armor.

The ghost of the Akaviri Commander at Pale Pass was clearly wearing what appeared to be Blades armor.

As for the TIL study, it's just speculation; we don't have any real info on Akavir besides in-game books and Pale Pass.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:16 am

Who says the armor is Akaviri? The Blades use Akaviri katanas that are explicitly called Akaviri, but the armor is given no mention other than it's Blade specific.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:31 am

Who says the armor is Akaviri? The Blades use Akaviri katanas that are explicitly called Akaviri, but the armor is given no mention other than it's Blade specific.

The leader of the army at Pale Pass was clearly wearing such armor. And seeing as how the two cultures had not influenced each other yet, its safe to say that the armor is of Akaviri design.
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 10:21 pm

There's no way of resolving the Pale Pass inconsistency without first addressing the "Akaviri men" thing or connecting it to real world scenarios.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:34 am

i think that this will clear things up its not offical but it sounds good to me

http://www.imperial-library.info/fsg/adanorcilarticle2.shtml


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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:19 am

I am suprised no one has mentioned http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/anuad.shtml yet.

On the other continents, the Wandering Ehlnofey became the Men: the Nords of Atmora, the Redguards of Yokuda, and the Tsaesci of Akavir.


So far as I can tell, we saw Tsaesci at Pale Pass. And Tsaesci are Men.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:28 am

I am suprised no one has mentioned http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/anuad.shtml yet.
So far as I can tell, we saw Tsaesci at Pale Pass. And Tsaesci are Men.


Except that their are descriptions of Tsaeci saying that they are snake-like from 2920. I think that the form of the Tsaesci should be pretty well known by the people of Cyrodiil, since they were ruled by them. Plus, the ones at pale pass didn't have Tsaeci names. They can still be men, just beastly men. We already know that men can look pretty weird. Think of the Kothringi.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:50 am

Except that their are descriptions of Tsaeci saying that they are snake-like from 2920. I think that the form of the Tsaesci should be pretty well known by the people of Cyrodiil, since they were ruled by them. Plus, the ones at pale pass didn't have Tsaeci names. They can still be men, just beastly men. We already know that men can look pretty weird. Think of the Kothringi.

They could be Asianic, portrayed 'snake-like' through racial hatred. But to be brutally honest, I hate that excuse for things myself. >_>

I'm still trying to understand all of it myself. But it's difficult when it isn't even widely understood by the people who make a job of understanding it. 2.2
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:47 am

They could be Asianic, portrayed 'snake-like' through racial hatred. But to be brutally honest, I hate that excuse for things myself. >_>

I'm still trying to understand all of it myself. But it's difficult when it isn't even widely understood by the people who make a job of understanding it. 2.2


They were described as having scales, tails and they slithered. And the Nibonese don't have racial hatred towards the Tsaeci. They are proud of having Tsaeci blood in them. The biggest problem with the Pale Pass guys is that they had non-Tsaeci names.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:25 am

wow wo I guess I must have never paid much attention during the quest I thought the dead at the fort were the humans defending it against the akiviri.
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