soooo, should I use bosmer or khajit. when should I use blade or bows and arrows? I mean, it's possible for me to use blade since I'm a bit used to it after playing those tenchu games. So should I even use bows and arrows at all?

It's personal preference, really. Some people swear by sneak + blade. I prefer attacking from afar. A poisoned sneak attack from a bow often means the enemy dies before even reaching you.

Ya its a personal preference. I prefer getting up close and personal with a blade.

and I mean without invisibility spellls. Imo, invisibility spells ruin the point of stealth.

Sneak and blade is my preference, and yes, without invisibility or chameleon.

With decent sneak skill, patience and good strategy, you should be able to get the drop on just about anybody.

Other than the marksman specialists who use it almost exclusively, most of my fighter characters only use a bow to draw off individuals from a crowd. Even then, most of them prefer sneak and blade-- it's just tougher when there are other potential enemies around.

Sneak and backstabing is fun and you gain a larger bonus, in exchange for the penalty of being spotted sooner and more often.
Just make sure you stick to shadows and do not move after striking, even with a 100 skill.

Invisilbility and illusion don't really ruin stealth, they enhance it, just don't spam them all the time.
Cast when in trouble, or to get the drop out in the open, as there are just as many if not more light parts in the game then dark.
Plus its a high cost spell and only if you're not detected before casting it will it grant a 100% critical, due to the fact that enemies are more aware and are bound to be grouped after the first strike.
As allways though its a preference, and there is no need to take it with every character ( as this would be boring and counter productive ).

Larger bonus makes up for lower base damage IMO.

what do you mean by strategy?
I just wait for the enemies to turn and then I go in.
How do you use invisibility spell w/o illusion as major?
So is there any point in having marksman as major? And do you use bosmer or khajit?
Btw, for the thief guild quest with the pale lady, how did you kill her? I don't see how sneaking up behind her is possible when she's looking right at you.

Same way you'd use it if illusion were a major; get illusion to 50, buy invisibility spell. It will, of course, take longer as a minor, but you can still level it quite quickly with liberal use of night-eye.

wwait, so what strategy do you use?

That's "strategy." There are more elements to it-- for instance, you come into a room with multiple opponents-- which one do you attack first? Why that one instead of another? You come into a room with a brightly lit stairway leading down in front of you and an opponent on the far side of the room-- how do you get to him without passing through the bright lights? And so on....


Majors don't matter, really. The only significant thing about majors is that they increase more quickly and when you get 10 increases in your majors, you level up. You can use ANY skill, no matter whether it's a major or minor.


First, again, majors don't really matter. They just increase more quickly and contribute to leveling. That said, even if you don't use it much, marksman's often a good major, because it increases quite slowly otherwise.


Sometimes. I've played at least one character of each gender of every race. I don't play Khajiit much because I think they look fake and that sort of bothers me. I've played a few different Bosmers-- they're one of my more favorite races.

Again, race almost always comes down to personal preference. All attributes and skills max out at the same point, and all races can get to that point, so it really doesn't make much difference in the long run. Just play whatever you want to play.


Well yeah-- it's basically impossible to sneak up on somebody who already knows you're there and is standing there looking at you. So you just kill her.

Sneak, aside from relatively weak opponents, generally isn't a one-shot deal. In the first few levels, you can take down most anything with a sneak melee attack. Later there will be fewer things you'll be able to do that with (unless you use poisons, and even then, the best of them take some time to work). You have to have good fighting skills anyway, because the odds are that what you're going to end up doing is getting in one sneak hit, then standing up and going toe-to-toe. With stronger opponents, there's no way that you're going to take them down with a single sneak attack, so you have to be ready to fight (again, unless you use poisons, and even then, they take a while to work, so you're at least going to have to be able to defend yourself). And in situations where the opponent is just standing there looking at you, you have no choice but to just fight, straight up. That's just the way it is.

did you just use the bow? for opponents taht are looking in your direction all the time but too far away to see you?
the trouble I have with rpgs is that there are way too many choices. I mean, I'm just trying to make an assassin/thief class but even that takes so much time lol. I mean anime ninjas depict them using ninjutsu (or magic) like that which could be destruction, and they could also block.
This is what I got so far.
alchemy, sneak, marksman, blade, athletics, light armor, and acrobatics. I'm thinking, should I replace any of them with destruction and/or block and/or illusion for that damn invisibility?
And btw, does bosmer or khajit fit what I'm looking for?
I'm surprised you didn't like khajit btw. I mean, a lot of people mentioned it as a melee stealth character.

I would dump athletics for illusion, though I wouldn't take illusion for invisibility. I think destruction would be more of a hindrance than a help. You've already got two offensive skills in your build in marksman and blade. Adding in a third means they'll each get fewer points per level, ultimately making your attacks weaker.

Why not both? Most stealth classes use both a Bow for ranged attacks and a short blade for when things get up close and personal.