Skyrim: Daedric Gear : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:07 am

I'm very green at Elder Scrolls lore, so I wanted to confirm this before I had my character start using it.....

So, here is my question. Does the Daedric gear we find in Skyrim belong to any specific Daedric Prince? Like does each have their own style of armor/weapons?

I ask this because I don't want to insult Malacath.

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:36 am

Each Deadric Prince has his own warriors. The warriors of Mehrunes Dagon wear Deadric Armour, but I am unsure about the others.

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:34 pm

Daedric armor and weapons are not the domain of any particular Prince, though Daedric armor is infused with the pain of the Daedra (usually Dremora) destroyed in it's creation. The Daedric artifacts obviously belong to specific Princes.

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:07 am

So, if I were to use a daedric mace, it could be of Malacath?

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:13 pm

I don't think so, but it probably wouldn't anger him either.

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:07 pm

Question: Does armor like that of the Dark Seducers, Golden Saints, and Aurorans count as Daedric armor? Is it made the same way? Or is it more mundane?

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:31 am

Question: Does armor like that of the Dark Seducers, Golden Saints, and Aurorans count as Daedric armor? Is it made the same way? Or is it more mundane?

I'm tempted to say that in those cases, the gears they wear are just a part of themselves, an extension of their soul manifesting as equipment. But that's just my speculation.

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:05 am

I'm tempted to say that in those cases, the gears they wear are just a part of themselves, an extension of their soul manifesting as equipment. But that's just my speculation.

I suppose we could say that about Auroran and Knight of Order armor (although with the latter, I don't think that was even armor, but just their crystalline bodies) since those armors were never lootable. But the armors of the Aurorans and Mazken were lootable, weren't they? Once you banished them to the waters of Oblivion, you'd think if the armor was an extension of themself, their armor would go with them.

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:30 pm

Question: Does armor like that of the Dark Seducers, Golden Saints, and Aurorans count as Daedric armor? Is it made the same way? Or is it more mundane?

Not sure about that, but I like the sig! ;D

I'm tempted to say that in those cases, the gears they wear are just a part of themselves, an extension of their soul manifesting as equipment. But that's just my speculation.

Wasn't the player given a suit during the Shivering Isles questline, though?

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:23 am

I suppose we could say that about Auroran and Knight of Order armor (although with the latter, I don't think that was even armor, but just their crystalline bodies) since those armors were never lootable. But the armors of the Aurorans and Mazken were lootable, weren't they? Once you banished them to the waters of Oblivion, you'd think if the armor was an extension of themself, their armor would go with them.

True, I didn't think about that, it could be simple armors made of the infinite mass of Sheogorath/Shivering Isles or even special amber/madness arms. I'll just blame game mechanics for now, just like vampires are supposed to turn to ash when killed, until someone writes some awesome monkey truth about it. I am but a novice here and my knowledge is still limited, I wouldn't want to induce anyone in error.

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:36 am

I suppose we could say that about Auroran and Knight of Order armor (although with the latter, I don't think that was even armor, but just their crystalline bodies) since those armors were never lootable. But the armors of the Aurorans and Mazken were lootable, weren't they? Once you banished them to the waters of Oblivion, you'd think if the armor was an extension of themself, their armor would go with them.

Then why don't their bodies fade away too?

The soul is the immaterial, dimensionless, transcendent essence of a thing. The things it forms around itself, the twisted creatia of its body and its equipment, is just so much extra junk, no more them than your toothbrush is you. When they're banished to the waters, it is only their soul that moves. The things their soul has wrought from cretia are left to lie where they may.

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» Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:18 am

Then why don't their bodies fade away too?

The soul is the immaterial, dimensionless, transcendent essence of a thing. The things it forms around itself, the twisted creatia of its body and its equipment, is just so much extra junk, no more them than your toothbrush is you. When they're banished to the waters, it is only their soul that moves. The things their soul has wrought from cretia are left to lie where they may.

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I like this speculation.

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:28 am

Thanks!

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:30 pm

Also, not all of their armor were lootable. Only shields and weapons. The armor is only available by a quest award.

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:26 pm

Malacath doesn't care what weapon you're using so long as it smashes things. But, if he were to have a specific type of weapon for his minions, I'd imagine it as the sand from his realm packed so tight as to cut through even the thickest of Breton/Redguard skulls, kept together with ivy from his garden. Also the gem on the pommel looks a whole lot like a corn husk.

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:09 am

I'm tempted to say that in those cases, the gears they wear are just a part of themselves, an extension of their soul manifesting as equipment. But that's just my speculation.

No, in Shivering Isles there's a quest where once you beat it you're given Golden Saint or Dark Seducer armor of your very own. And in another quest I remember a Golden Saint commander putting on her helmet partway through.

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:16 pm

Malacath doesn't care what weapon you're using so long as it smashes things. But, if he were to have a specific type of weapon for his minions, I'd imagine it as the sand from his realm packed so tight as to cut through even the thickest of Breton/Redguard skulls, kept together with ivy from his garden. Also the gem on the pommel looks a whole lot like a corn husk.

Any weapons like that in Skyrim? xD

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:14 am

The generic "Daedric" equipment in Skyrim is all Dremoran. It's always been Dremoran. So it's aligned with Dagon I guess, but Malacath wouldnt care... I don't think.