Consistent Crashing in Exteriors : IV

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:15 am

Hi. I'm new here, so forgive me if I don't know all the rules and customs....

Oblivion has been crashing. A lot. As in, much more than the typical amount. I've noticed a few patterns to it. It seems to crash much more in exterior cells. It seems to do fine when I just stand still, but whenever I start walking around, (entering a city, wandering the countryside, and especially going near Oblivion Gates,) it crashes after about 20 steps, depending on how close I am to anything interesting. It may or may not have to do with the Oblivion Gate weather, since I can't seem to anywhere without it, even if I try to force the weather to change (although I have had a weird glitch where the weather becomes clear right next to a Gate).

Here are my system specs:

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Model: Asus Desktop PC CM1730 Series

OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit, Service Pack 1

CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1065T @ 2.90 GHz

RAM: 8 GB

GPU: NVidia GEForce GTX 550 Ti @ 1GB GDDR5 w/ DX11

HD: 1 TB

My PC is able to run Skyrim beautifully on Uber settings, and I've set the LAA flag to let Oblivion use over 2 GB, so I can't really see it being a hardware issue. I think I'm also running Oblivion in compatibility mode for XP.

Here's my list of active mods:

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00 Oblivion.esm
01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.34]
02 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]
03 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]
04 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
05 Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3]
06 CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm
07 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9a7]
08 CURP_Controller.esm
09 CM Partners.esm
0A Toaster Says Share v3.esm
0B TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c]
0C DremoraCompanion.esm
0D Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 5.1.8]
0E Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0]
0F Oblivion XP.esp [Version 4.1.5]
10 DLCShiveringIsles.esp
11 sr_super_hotkeys.esp [Version 0.54]
12 ReclaimSancreTor.esp [Version 1.0.4]
13 PersuasionOverhaul.esp [Version 1.43]
++ PersuasionOverhaul_MMM.esp [Version 1.2]
14 All Natural.esp [Version 1.34]
15 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.34]
++ PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp [Version 1.2]
16 Reaper's The Dark Tower.esp
17 Anduril Reforged.esp
18 Ra'haar's Arcane Clutter.esp
19 All Natural - MMM Patch.esp [Version 1.3]
1A Immersive Interiors.esp [Version 0.8.1]
1B UVII.esp
++ Slightly Stronger Liches.esp
1C Enhanced Grabbing.esp [Version 0.5]
1D Amajor7 Imperial Furniture.esp
1E Streamline 3.0.esp
1F Necromancer Shop.esp
20 Musical Immersion 1.0.esp
++ Drum_Fix.esp
21 GoldnSilverBars.esp
22 TeachSpell.esp
23 DLCFrostcrag.esp
24 Cannibalism.esp
25 PersonalPackGuars.esp [Version 0.56]
26 DeathKightSpells v1_3.esp
27 TamrielTravellers.esp [Version 1.39c]
28 TamrielTravellers4MMM.esp [Version 1.39c]
29 TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp [Version 1.39c]
2A DremoraCompanion.esp
2B sycHearNoEvil.esp [Version 1.0]
2C FormID Finder4.esp
2D Jjiinx_Enhanced Disease.esp
2E Bard of Cyrodiil 2.0.esp
2F Think to Yourself.esp
30 tcsLeviathanBoss.esp
31 Birthsigns Expanded.esp [Version 3.21.]
32 QQuix - Rock, rock, rock your ship - V3.esp
33 Skyrim Nord Tombs.esp
34 Oblivion - Soulgems.esp
35 Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp
36 Living Economy.esp
37 Living Economy - Items.esp
38 DLCHorseArmor.esp
39 DLCOrrery.esp
3A DLCVileLair.esp
3B DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
3C DLCSpellTomes.esp
3D Dreadweave Complete_Heavy.esp
3E M.O.E. - New Staffs, Blight and Ashstorms.esp [Version 2]
3F M.O.E. - Playable Scythe.esp [Version 2]
++ M.O.E. - Unlocked Palace Guard Armour.esp [Version 1]
++ M.O.E. - Unlocked Dremora Armour and Robes.esp [Version 1]
++ M.O.E. - Unlocked Glenroy and Captain Renault Blades Armour.esp [Version 1]
40 DLCThievesDen.esp
41 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]
42 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]
++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44]
43 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]
44 FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9]
45 Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
46 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9]
47 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]
48 FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
49 Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Increased.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
4A Mart's Monster Mod - No Carrion Rats.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
4B Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
4C Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
4D Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
4E Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
4F Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
50 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
51 Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp [Version 3.7b3p]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions OOO.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
52 OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34]
53 KvatchAftermath.esp
54 Ivellon.esp [Version 1.8]
55 Trade and Commerce.esp
56 Benirus Lair.esp
57 Better Benirus Manor.esp [Version 4.71]
58 HackdirtTheDeepOnes.esp
59 HauntedHouse.esp [Version y]
5A kingdomofAlmar.esp
5B M.O.E. - Tools of Kagrenac - The Secret of White Gold Tower.esp [Version 6]
5C M.O.E. - The Black Sacrament - Night Mother's Ritual.esp [Version 2]
5D Nocturne.esp
5E Okaritemple.esp
5F Return Of Shadows.esp [Version 1.1]
60 Servant of the Dawn.esp
61 Sheogoraths_Accords_of_Madness.esp
62 TheWellOfMinlorada.esp
63 TheElderCouncil.esp
64 TheElderCouncil_TempleOfTheOne.esp
65 TEC_4ERA_Dialog_Filter.esp
66 M.O.E. - Visit Valen Dreth Topic.esp [Version 1]
67 The Lost Spires.esp
68 Origin of the Mages Guild.esp [Version 7.3]
69 TheNecromancer.esp
6A MannimarcoComplete.esp
6B MannimarcoRevisited.esp
6C MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp [Version 0.1]
6D Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
6E FCOM_OMG.esp [Version 0.9.9]
6F mythsandlegends.esp
70 BravilSeaDomesixpanded.esp
71 Moriarcis.esp
72 Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08]
73 FightersGuildContracts.esp
74 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
75 Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]
76 Bag of Holding.esp [Version 1.5.0]
77 CUO_Dwemer.esp
78 CUO_FightersGuildContracts_SAFE.esp
79 CUO_MerchantsGuild_SAFE.esp
7A CUO_MerchantUpdate_SAFE.esp
7B CUO_NewFactionDialog_SAFE.esp
7C M.O.E. - Travel Services.esp [Version 3]
7D M.O.E. - Lucien Lachance Rumors Fix.esp [Version 1]
7E M.O.E. - Lycanthropy and Lichcraft.esp [Version 7]
7F M.O.E. - Realistic Prices, Realistic Weights, No Quest Items.esp [Version 2]
80 M.O.E. - New Classes.esp [Version 1]
81 Ayelid Wells.esp
82 Roleplaying Dialogues.esp
83 Quest Award Leveller.esp [Version 2.0.1]
84 Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp [Version 2.1.0]
++ Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp [Version 2.1.0]
85 M.O.E. - Hunger Effects.esp [Version 1]
86 Drokk's Vampire Mod.esp
87 M.O.E. - Vampire Clan Raelu.esp [Version 6]
88 M.O.E. - Vampire Players Scarier.esp [Version 2]
89 SpreadingVampirism_NoSecondaryInfection.esp
8A Darkness Unleashed - Master.esp [Version 1.05]
8B Darkness Unleashed - Bone Magick.esp [Version 1.05]
8C Darkness Unleashed.esp [Version 1.05]
8D Darkness Unleashed - Blood Magick.esp [Version 1.0]
8E M.O.E. - Ethereal State Spell.esp [Version 1]
8F M.O.E. - Levitation Magic.esp [Version 1]
90 M.O.E. - Lock Spells.esp [Version 1]
91 M.O.E. - Teleportation Magic and Icarian Flight.esp [Version 2]
92 The Sixth Element.esp
93 Advanced Magecraft.esp
94 Mighty Magick - Core.esp [Version 1.2]
95 Mighty Magick - Skills.esp [Version 1.2]
96 Mighty Magick - Magicka Pool Progression.esp [Version 1.2]
97 Mighty Magick - Side Effects.esp [Version 1.2]
++ Mighty Magick - Sigil Stones.esp [Version 1.2]
98 Mighty Magick - Restore Magicka Potions [OOO].esp [Version 1.2]
99 MidasSpells.esp
++ MidasSpells - MMR Patch.esp
9A MidasMagicCompanions.esp
9B M.O.E. - Realistic Law Enforcement - Part One.esp [Version 1]
9C M.O.E. - Realistic Law Enforcement - Part Two.esp [Version 2]
++ M.O.E. - Unlocked Hairstyles.esp [Version 1]
9D CM Partners.esp
9E Capucines Character Expansion.esp
9F Ice Elves and Wolf Elves.esp
A0 M.O.E. - Playable Dremora and Custom Race Fix.esp [Version 1]
A1 Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp
A2 CM Partners Special NPCs.esp
A3 CM Partners NPC.esp
A4 CM Partners NPC NE.esp
A5 CM Partners More NPCs.esp
A6 CM Partners More NPCs NE.esp
A7 CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp
A8 CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp
A9 SnowAndHarukoCMPartners.esp
AA DASkeleton.esp
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
AB AznarsLifeDetect.esp
AC Bashed Patch, 0.esp
AD EpicHordeSummons.esp
AE Better Benirus Manor - Benirus Lair Patch.esp
AF soul gem transmutor.esp
B0 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]
B1 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
B2 SpellMaster.esp
B3 _Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp
B4 _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp
B5 Knights.esp
B6 Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp [Version 2.1.0]
B7 Landmarks.esp
B8 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.34]
B9 Better Cities .esp [Version 4.7.0]
BA Sauron_Armor_Chest.esp
BB ICEXPAND.esp [Version 1.5BCE]
BC WOTFH_1.3.esp *
BD EiAmod.esp [Version 1.1]
BE HeartOftheDead.esp [Version 6.0]
BF Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp [Version 5.0.0]
C0 00RBScribeSupplies Intensive.esp
C1 Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp [Version 4.7.0]
C2 Better Cities - Knights of the Nine.esp [Version 4.9.8]
C3 Better Cities - Open Better Cities.esp [Version 4.9.5]
C4 Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 2.1]
C5 Better Cities Full.esp [Version 5.1.7]
C6 Better Imperial City.esp [Version 5.1.8]
C7 Better Imperial City - OMG.esp [Version 4.7.0]
C8 OneRing.esp ***
C9 FrostcragRebornResurrected.esp ***
CA Trolls Under Bridges.esp *

*** marks a mod that I've made, * marks one that I've edited somehow, either adding something or optimizing scripts.

I use Wrye Bash, OBMM, BOSS, the works. I don't know of any conflicts that would cause this crashing, but as you can see I'm a bit of a mod-aholic, so who knows. I've also tried using WeOPCS, but that was pretty short-lived. It did stop my game from crashing (for about ten minutes), but it also disabled A LOT of very important features (looting creatures (NPCs were fine, strangely), a lot of icons, the esc menu(!)...). I ended up uninstalling it pretty quickly.

I have two major games going, both with about 100 hours poured in, so I would rather not have to lose them. I'm really only getting this problem in one game, but I'm having other problems in the other. In the other game, the game lags horribly (maybe 2 FPS...), except when I'm on a menu like the local map, and it crashes whenever I try to enter an interior cell. If it's of any interest, all of my saves for both games seem to be over 12 MB.

I've tried lowering the graphics down to more moderate settings, but I didn't notice any change. Probably the only thing I can think of that I haven't tried is to reinstall the game, which I don't want to do if I can avoid it.

Anyway, sorry if I'm a bit wordy, but I really just want to play my game. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:39 am

Reclaiming Sancre Tor, and Servant of the Dawn conflict in many ways, and are basically mutually exclusive. (don't run both.)

Salmo used to have a rep for causing odd crashes, not sure if that was ever really fixed or not.

Where do you have the game installed to? If it is in some flavor of Program Files folder, need to move it. (uinstall, reinstall)

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:33 pm

Well, I have the game installed in My Documents, but I've moved it back and forth in order to run BOSS. I didn't know about RST and SotD though. I'll try deactivating one of them. Thanks for the tip!

Edit: Well, I've fixed it. I ended up disabling All Natural and Better Cities, and that seems to have fixed all of my problems. *sigh* Yaaaaay. <:\ I really liked those mods. I guess I'll try re-enabling them after the main quest.

So, new topic. Any ideas on why those mods would have caused problems?

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:54 am

Salmo the baker? At one time, that mod caused some odd problems....

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:08 am

Salmo the baker? At one time, that mod caused some odd problems....

I believe that was fixed in an optional package, but I could be wrong.

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:15 am

It's a mod confilct. You just need to find out which one is causing the problem