Beast Legs and Beds

Post » Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:37 am

I for one hate what bethesda did with beast races in oblivion. As far as the bed ownership in oblivion went, i have no earthly idea why bethesda thought that it was a good idea. what do you want to see in skyrim?

Discuss.
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Jessie Rae Brouillette
 
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Post » Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:23 pm

straight

no
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Mark Churchman
 
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Post » Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:25 am

straight

no


Why straight?
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Alex Vincent
 
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Post » Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:48 pm

Straight because it looks better and all TES games except for Morrowind has straight beast legs. It's also easier to do so they can spend more time doing more important things.

No bed ownership.
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Rusty Billiot
 
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Post » Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:04 am

Why straight?

Why not? :P
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Roberto Gaeta
 
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Post » Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:01 am

Straight because it looks better and all TES games except for Morrowind has straight beast legs. It's also easier to do so they can spend more time doing more important things.

No bed ownership.

its deffinately easier, but i do disagree about it looking better, the bent legs are part of what makes the beast races unique and appealing and well, beast like. it also adds to the diversity of the game.
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Laura Ellaby
 
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Post » Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:27 am

Don't really care about legs, though straight would be nice.

No, beds shouldn't have ownership, but you shouldn't be able to sleep whilst tresspassing and the cell owner is present, but when the cell owner is absent/dead, the bed should be usable.
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Amelia Pritchard
 
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Post » Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:52 pm

Straight because it looks better and all TES games except for Morrowind has straight beast legs. It's also easier to do so they can spend more time doing more important things.

No bed ownership.


I'd consider "more important things" including bent beast legs. More important things, meaning added features, and bent beast legs being an added feature.

That being said, I personally don't care either way. It always just irks me when forumgoers magically decide Bethesda's time constraints and budget.

As for owned beds, I support them because it's simple logic. I think there should certainly be points where beds "lose" their ownership, such as when the owner is killed or if you join a faction and desire to sleep in their guild hall. But beds, like all other aspects of NPC life, are owned possessions. Personally, I'd be freaked out and call the guards if I found a stranger sleeping in my bed. Hell, I'd call them even if it was my neighbor. People have their own beds, and they surely have no place in mine.
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Post » Wed Jan 13, 2010 6:03 am

Don't really care about legs, though straight would be nice.

No, beds shouldn't have ownership, but you shouldn't be able to sleep whilst tresspassing and the cell owner is present, but when the cell owner is absent/dead, the bed should be usable.


indeed... i miss being able to *ahem* evict the owners of a house and making it your own... it was just idiotic to makes beds eternally unusable, imo.
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Post » Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:49 am

*Bent Legs (Morrowind style models)
Because it's different, it's exotic, and it's "beast like" (hence the term beast.)
I don't really care that much anyway.I rather see them focus on better "epic" storyline this time, many new different landscapes(dungeons), better difficulty settings, many new & old factions to join, realism, and ALOT more.Beast legs or no, it's not really that important atm.

*NO.
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Post » Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:59 pm

I'd consider "more important things" including bent beast legs. More important things, meaning added features, and bent beast legs being an added feature.

That being said, I personally don't care either way. It always just irks me when forumgoers magically decide Bethesda's time constraints and budget.

As for owned beds, I support them because it's simple logic. I think there should certainly be points where beds "lose" their ownership, such as when the owner is killed or if you join a faction and desire to sleep in their guild hall. But beds, like all other aspects of NPC life, are owned possessions. Personally, I'd be freaked out and call the guards if I found a stranger sleeping in my bed. Hell, I'd call them even if it was my neighbor. People have their own beds, and they surely have no place in mine.


ahh, i should have been more specific. i fully support bed ownership for beds that are owned by a living npc or one that is present. but this thread is pertaining to the the issue of beds ALWAYS being owned even after its owner has left/died
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Post » Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:03 pm

I was quite contempt with the Oblivion style beast legs; though I would like to see something a bit different than the same body model for every (gender specific) race.
Though, as i've not played Morrowind, i'm quite open to change and surely wont mind if they decide to implement new beast designs.

As for Beds, I see no problem with sleeping in someone elses bed and opted for the idea that nobody's bed should be 'owned'.
Perhaps though, if you are caught something amusing could happen.
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Post » Wed Jan 13, 2010 6:27 am

Bent legs, it is better than Bethesda just changing the head and textures of imperials to make the "beast" races.

And No, If you want to sleep in someone else's bed, why should the game prevent you? It shouldn't be all risk free however, chance of being attacked, or fined or something.
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Post » Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:44 pm

You mean you were content with the beast legs. I would prefer that the K'hajit and the Argonians have their own beastly legs so that they comply with animal structure. This would burden the modelers to rig more legs. We can't stop Bethesda if they want to do it the easy way and violate their own lore. By deviating they are not paying respect to the solidity of their creations. They should make take steps forward, yes, but not to sacrifice what makes their game TES.

I really wish they would take care in two areas:

1) Combat / AI tactics
2) The personalities of their characters
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Trent Theriot
 
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Post » Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:58 pm

Bent legs, no bed owenership.
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Antony Holdsworth
 
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Post » Wed Jan 13, 2010 6:42 am

Bent legs. Maybe not the same type of legs for Argonians and Khajiits, but they should both look different than Humans and Elves. And maybe more than two voice actors for the two genders of Argonians and Khajiits? Yes please.

The ownership of a bed after somebody died was annoying in Oblivion, so definitely no ownership after death.
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Post » Wed Jan 13, 2010 6:22 am

Bent legs, love how they look however the walk animation has to be better than in Morrowind :)
For beds, kind of mixed opinion here let you sleep wherever you want but mark the bed with red, the owner or his friends will be pissed on you if they find you. You can even be arrested for breaking and entering if you break into a house or room to sleep.
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Post » Tue Jan 12, 2010 4:28 pm

As long as making the legs bent doesn't mean I can't wear boots or shoes, then yes I'd like Morrowind style beast legs.

And beds should be owned, yes, but you should be able to sleep where ever you damn well please and if that bed happens to be owned then you may be fined by the guards or attacked by the owner of said bed.
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Post » Wed Jan 13, 2010 6:07 am

Beds should be owned. But not unsleepable. Keep the illegal indicator on them, and if the owner of the bed finds you sleeping in it, they can call the- STOP YOU VIOLATED THE LAW.

I kinda prefer the bent legs, but I don't really care too much about that.
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Post » Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:51 pm

You mean you were content with the beast legs. I would prefer that the K'hajit and the Argonians have their own beastly legs so that they comply with animal structure. This would burden the modelers to rig more legs. We can't stop Bethesda if they want to do it the easy way and violate their own lore. By deviating they are not paying respect to the solidity of their creations. They should make take steps forward, yes, but not to sacrifice what makes their game TES.


But as stated before MW was the only game to 'have' bent legs so 'its' in violation. And although I'm not opposed to MW style they would need better walking animations (not the MW frog walk). I'd even accept the no helmet and boots restriction (which actually makes sense).

Bed ownership has something to do with AI of NPCs and their sleep packages. We still had this in FO3/FONV. Agree it should be fixed.
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Post » Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:45 am

Bent legs. So they actually look like beasts and not furry humans.

Bed ownership is a must have. The earthly reason it was in Oblivion is that most people wouldn't be to pleased if they found someone sleeping in their bed.
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Post » Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:00 pm

Bent legs

Yes to ownership. They should have owners, and those owners should have their ownership stripped when they die. But even in that case, the bed is still owned until "transferred," so yes to ownership.
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Post » Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:04 am

Bent

HELL NO

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