Hi,
Whenever I start the game with my bashed patch activated, the game freezes at the initial loading screen. I've tried activating my mods one by one, and they always work until I activate the bashed patch. I've also tried rebuilding the patch choosing one option at a time, but it always causes the game to freeze. Any idea as the what is causing this?

Oblivion.esmMart's Monster Mod.esmArmamentarium.esmUnofficial Oblivion Patch.espDLCShiveringIsles.espUnofficial Shivering Isles Patch.espLoadingScreens.espChaseCameraMod.espMap Marker Overhaul.espMap Marker Overhaul - SI additions.espDLCHorseArmor.espDLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.espDLCOrrery.espDLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.espDLCVileLair.espDLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.espDLCMehrunesRazor.espDLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.espDLCSpellTomes.espDLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.espXSPipeMod.espDLCThievesDen.espDLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.espDLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.espArmamentariumLL.espArmamentariumLLVendors.espMart's Monster Mod.espMart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.espMart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.espMart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.espMart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.espMart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.espMart's Monster Mod - No Giants.espMart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.espMart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.espMart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.espMart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.espDLCBattlehornCastle.espDLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.espDLCFrostcrag.espDLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.espKnights.espKnights - Unofficial Patch.espMart's Monster Mod - Knights.espRTT.espOblivifall - Something's Not Right.espLynges Unlimited Death Reload Time.espCliff_Roleplayingcharacter.espunnatural_aura_by_trollf.espMidasSpells.espOblivion XP.espactors_in_charge.espActorsInMadness.espActorsInEmotions.espElaborateEyes.espCT-Argonian Headstyles-EE.espBashed Patch, 0.espStreamline 3.1.esp

also, when running DarNified UI and LSTR, do I have to activate the LSTR esp even if I chose the 'Trollf Loading Screen' option whilst installing DarN?
Cheers!

-Wierdoom

Bump. Anyone?

Try bringing in a replacement bashed patch from Mopy\Extras.

Also, can you describe what you are doing when building the bashed patch?
And what version of Wrye Bash are you running?

gothemasticator

also:
- what version (ie is it fully patched) of Oblivion do you have?
- does it work with just oblivion.esm & the patch (with one of the tweaks (such as the nvidia fog fix) enabled so it has some contents)
Pacific Morrowind

I have a fully patched Oblivion, with all of the unnofficial patches/DLC as well. I'm running Wrye Bash v.277. Also, after some tinkering I found that the Bashed Patch works if I choose nothing but the 'tweak' options (Tweak clothing, assorted, names, settings). This is still useless though, since that's really not what it's best for.

okay try disabling all mods except for oblivion, uop, dlcsi, usip and rebuild patch with all imports of those and test
also you might as well disable/delete Lynges Unlimited Death Reload Time.esp and use the tweak in the patch since that segment is working for you.
Pacific Morrowind

That partially worked. Using only the patches/DLC I was able to get to the main menu, but I got a CTD on trying to start a new game.

Do you have any scripts merged into your Bashed Patch? I had the same problem (savegames not loading) until I rebuilt my bashed patch without importing scripts. If so, try rebuilding your bashed patch without the scripts, and let use know the results.

I tried that, and it didn't do anything. <_<

Which versions of OBSE and Pluggy are you using? MMO requires v18b4 and Pluggy 128. Anything earlier could cause problems.

I am using Pluggy v132, and OBSE v18b6.

Try the long approach with your BP, then. Activate each option on the left, but leave the boxes for merging on the right unchecked. I know this is tedious, but try running that, and then checking boxes a few at a time, as you go. See if that helps narrow it down.

Once again, it didn't work. Even just without choosing any ESPs to import.

Well, that's gotta be frustrating. Here's a few more ideas to try:

• Disable loading screens. Only because that's the point at which you are having freezing.
  
• Make sure your MMM BSA is still named "Mart's Monster Mod.bsa"
  
• Disable the MMM Slof's horses complete plugin. Or read up on it again. Is there something special to it when you're using Horse Armor as well?
  
• Uninstall Bash completely and reinstall. Last resort.

Another thing that might help is if you rebuild your patch as if nothing was wrong, checking all the options you normally would. Check to make sure it causes the freeze. Then post that load order with Wrye Bash (so we can see version numbers, etc.). Right-click on the column headers in the Mods tab and choose "List Mods." Copy/paste the results here. Perhaps we'll see something we're missing right now.

gothemasticator

Here:

Active Mod Files:00  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]----> Delinquent MASTER: Oblivion.esm01  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]----> Delinquent MASTER: Oblivion.esm02  Oblivion.esm03  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.4]04  LoadingScreens.esp05  XSPipeMod.esp  [Version 1.2]06  ArmamentariumLL.esp  [Version 1.35]07  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]08  Mart's Monster Mod.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]09  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]0A  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]0B  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]0C  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]0D  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]0E  Mart's Monster Mod - No Giants.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]0F  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]10  Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]11  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]12  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]13  Mart's Monster Mod - Knights.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]----> Delinquent MASTER: Knights.esp14  RTT.esp15  unnatural_aura_by_trollf.esp16  MidasSpells.esp17  actors_in_charge.esp18  ActorsInMadness.esp19  ActorsInEmotions.esp1A  ElaborateEyes.esp1B  Streamline 3.1.esp1C  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]1D  DLCHorseArmor.esp1E  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]1F  ChaseCameraMod.esp20  DLCOrrery.esp21  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]22  DLCFrostcrag.esp23  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]24  DLCThievesDen.esp25  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]26  DLCVileLair.esp27  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]28  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp29  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]2A  DLCSpellTomes.esp2B  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]2C  Knights.esp2D  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]2E  CT-Argonian Headstyles-EE.esp2F  DLCShiveringIsles.esp30  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.3.1]31  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.0.2]32  Cyrodiil Travel Services.esp  [Version 1.3]33  Oblivifall - Something's Not Right.esp  [Version 1.0]34  Cliff_Roleplayingcharacter.esp  [Version 2.1]35  Oblivion XP.esp  [Version 4.1.5]36  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.0EV-L]37  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp38  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]3A  Bashed Patch, 0.esp3B  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]

If you don't see anything here, I'll reinstall Bash.

Now, see. You still have delinquent masters - that is, master files loading after their dependent files. And you still have on of your unofficial patches loading after the bashed patch. In addition, the whole thing is out of order.

You need to be running BOSS and letting it reorder your files (make sure "Lock Times" is unchecked in Wrye Bash). Then you need to rebuild the bashed patch.

Getting the load order right is very important and should be your priority.

gothemasticator

That worked! I was running BOSS all this time, but I didn't notice that Bash was resetting the load list every time I started it. Thanks so much for the help!