So who do you think is more viable, House or Yes-man? : Fallout: New Vegas

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:18 am

In general, I wouldnt blame Democracy, well, not fully at least. The large issue is what the government itself was doing. Sabotaging China's claim to an oil resource during the Resource Wars, a race for the last bits of precious oil left on the planet. In retaliation of America's underhandedness, China invaded Anchorage (Though the details of that war aside from victory are scetchy as the Op:Anch simulation is basically General Chase's delusions of grandeur as opposed to how it really went down.), when America won the Anchorage Reclamation, they marched on China, and as they were making their way up the Yangtze river towards Beijing, the Great War happened. According to President Richardson claims the Chinese struck first with their warheads, whether this is true or not is up for debate.

Suffice it to say, the issue was political tensions in the world had come to a head. The Great War arguably did humanity a favor. Not enough food for mouths, low resources, and the Great War fixed our little 'population problem'.

There would be no reason for President Richardson to lie about that.
Just look at it this way: American troops were closing in on Bejing, China was going to lose the war.
Who would have more reason to launch Nukes?

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:25 pm

House can offer you immortality.

No one else can.

'Nuff said.

That immortality is a blessing and a curse though, if you look at it. You would not be able to leave once you reached a certain date, otherwise you would become infected like House can become.

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:24 am

That immortality is a blessing and a curse though, if you look at it. You would not be able to leave once you reached a certain date, otherwise you would become infected like House can become.

Speak for yourself.

:banana:

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:48 pm

That immortality is a blessing and a curse though, if you look at it. You would not be able to leave once you reached a certain date, otherwise you would become infected like House can become.

Couldn't you just wear a heavily-modified set of powered armor, then? That way, you can still go on your wasteland adventures and go kill people and [censored]. The only stipulation is that if your suit is critically damaged, you're screwed.

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Not that bad a trade-off, considering immortality would be pretty nice.

"I plan to live forever, of course, but barring that I'd settle for a couple of thousand years... Even 500 would be pretty nice." - CEO Nwabudike Morgan, MorganLink 3D Vision Live Interview

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:08 am

Couldn't you just wear a heavily-modified set of powered armor, then? That way, you can still go on your wasteland adventures and go kill people and [censored]. The only stipulation is that if your suit is critically damaged, you're screwed.

Well, most advanced power armors are lore wise nearly impenetrable, so it sounds like a good deal.

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:41 am

Couldn't you just wear a heavily-modified set of powered armor, then? That way, you can still go on your wasteland adventures and go kill people and [censored]. The only stipulation is that if your suit is critically damaged, you're screwed.

You could just implant your brain into a robot and become some sort of cyborg, a lot easier and cheaper don't you think?

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:53 am

I beg to differ. House is best for the whole of the Mojave that is within his borders (IE every location we see in game is part of what would be considered House's domain should he win). Ultimately I see House as the best choice for the region, and best for general technologic and economic rebirth on a wider scale. NCR is best for other regions, but if NCR wins and takes New Vegas I feel it'd be their waterloo, because even if they won the battle, they'd lose the war on the Legion because Kimball and his type of people would stay in the administration. Also, chasing the old world isnt a bad thing. Anyone who says 'The old world led to the war', that's a cop out excuse. It was a mixture of America's overly hostile behaviour and the lack of resources to go around.

I beg to differ. House is best for House and no one else.
All he cares about is ensuring a steady flow of income he can use to propel his researches about "longevity" and interstellar travel.
He has no vision whatsoever of what to do with his earthly empire rather than milking it for his greater goals. Legislation? Jurisprudence?
Too much of a hassle for a man, who keeps looking to the stars. Protecting his sources of income is the only thing he deems necessary.
Installing House means more or less the continuation of the current Anarchy, maintaining the status quo.
By choosing the Yes Man route, the Courier steps into the game, and with him -possibly, depending on the mind of the player- the chance of actual development, a meaningful allocation of resources for the better of the people, a political concept.

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:52 am

Wrong topic.

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:07 pm

Since Vegas gets the protection of the MkII Securitrons whether the Courier goes House or Yes Man, it really depends on the intelligence and personality of the Courier. There is a possibility that the Courier will turn out to be able, well-adjusted and civic-minded, but if the Courier is a crappy/indifferent administrator or worse a psychopath, the Mojave is headed for dark times. Either way the independent New Vegas route demands personal infallibility of its leader and a whole lot of luck. After all, Kimball is losing the elections if NCR withdraws from the Mojave. Neither House nor any version of the Courier can do sh-t if an anti-Vegas president gets elected in the NCR and/or if NCR public sentiment turns against them and high tariffs or an embargo gets set up. Remember, the prosperity of Vegas depends largely on NCR trade and caps.

NCR > House > Indy > Legion

NCR is the only group with the potential to create a stable territory that will last longer than a couple of decades.

^ This is essentially how I see it as well.

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:25 pm

NCR > House > Indy > Legion

Indy/House > NCR > Legion

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:01 pm

Indy/House > NCR > Legion

House ≥ Yes Man>>>>>>>NCR>>Legion

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:43 am

Some interesting topics to view on here. Though, has anyone considered just how people will react to a long term dictator as House who is never present? Imagine if you had tanks rolling around outside your front door every single day, never saw nor heard anything at all from the "man in charge" and lived under his total control? I don't think people would suffer in a long term reign like that for what is essentially a robot run police state. Look at what happens just in the few years House is running NV. The Omertas are planning a coup, Benny was already betraying him, the White Glove society was already in the works to resume cannibalism...all under the ignorant nose of Mr House. Sure, the Courier would eventually die, but he also was able to take an active role in things. Look at how a beloved person like Aradesh & Tandi became Presidents of the NCR. I could see a descendant of the Courier eventually setting up diplomatic relations with them at a point, as well as the Legion as they became a power in their own right. Just my own ideas.

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:44 pm

Some interesting topics to view on here. Though, has anyone considered just how people will react to a long term dictator as House who is never present? Imagine if you had tanks rolling around outside your front door every single day, never saw nor heard anything at all from the "man in charge" and lived under his total control? I don't think people would suffer in a long term reign like that for what is essentially a robot run police state. Look at what happens just in the few years House is running NV. The Omertas are planning a coup, Benny was already betraying him, the White Glove society was already in the works to resume cannibalism...all under the ignorant nose of Mr House. Sure, the Courier would eventually die, but he also was able to take an active role in things. Look at how a beloved person like Aradesh & Tandi became Presidents of the NCR. I could see a descendant of the Courier eventually setting up diplomatic relations with them at a point, as well as the Legion as they became a power in their own right. Just my own ideas.

Eh... Once the questline ends, you've removed Big Sal, Nero, (optionally) Mortimer, and Benny. Swank is quite loyal to House, so is Marjorie, and Cachino isn't bent on taking over the strip.

Not to mention, House could offer his technology to the courier, so in retrospect, the Courier could live forever.

After his defeat in the Mojave, Kimball wouldn't be so "beloved" to the NCR. He'd be impeached, disgraced, same with General Oliver.

Not to mention, he now has an army that lets him keep a definite watch on the Strip and Mojave, post Hoover Dam II.