Jyggalag and Kalpas : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:54 pm

From what I understand, every new Kalpa, things repeat with some small changes. Now, would that mean that in every Kalpa Jyggalag gets cursed to remain as Sheogorath until the greymarch at the end of an (Shivering Isle)era?

» Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:32 am

I dont think the realm of Oblivion is subject to the same rules.

» Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:31 am

no the kalpas have deifferent gods

» Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:46 am

I understand that Molag Bal used to be Akatosh.

» Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:22 am

Peryite used to be mortal.

» Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:12 am

no the kalpas have deifferent gods

I understand that Molag Bal used to be Akatosh.

Peryite used to be mortal.

Source?

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:30 pm

Umaril's father was a god.

» Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:42 am

Boethiah's Summoning day by MK.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:33 pm

Boethiah's Summoning day by MK.

No one knows who was responsible for that work if I'm not mistaken. It offers a interesting perspective on things, but we should ere on the side of caution to claim its a definitive source for what happens Kalpa to Kalpa.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:29 pm

Oh we don't? I thought that was from mk.

» Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:13 am

Definitely not from MK, or anyone at Bethesda.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:56 pm

Still, Umaril.

» Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:43 am

Source?

I could not give you one. I heard it on these forums, and I do not think with relation to the Summoning Day Letters.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:52 pm

I could not give you one. I heard it on these forums, and I do not think with relation to the Summoning Day Letters.

Oh? I twas watching the summoning day letters unfold at the time, and the subsequent speculation around em was the Daedra/Aedra swap out if I remember correctly. At least that was the first time I heard the idea.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:31 pm

I think the changes are a bit more than "small." The last kalpa was flooded and ruled by the dreugh.

» Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:37 am

According to the lore, Jygallag is imprisioned inside Sheogorath until the end of each era. And that repeats and repeats and repeats. But now he's dead because the new Sheogorath killed him at the greymarch

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:24 pm

According to the lore, Jygallag is imprisioned inside Sheogorath until the end of each era. And that repeats and repeats and repeats. But now he's dead because the new Sheogorath killed him at the greymarch

He's not dead. He was merely defeated. You never truly killed him. see his speech http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAWRBezzdO8#t=3m17s

» Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:58 am

He's not dead. He was merely defeated. You never truly killed him. see his speech http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAWRBezzdO8#t=3m17s

Oh now i remember. I haven't played Shivering Isles in so long that i didn't remember this speech.

» Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:03 am

Umaril was interesting, because his father was from the previous Kalpa, but his mother, being a mortal Ayleid in a time where beings of higher creational gradients still walked Tamriel, was from the current Kalpa.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:56 pm

Maybe he's just full of BS and he's half Auroran? He sure looks like an auroran.

» Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:30 am

His auroran appearance, taken with the testimony that his sire was a god of the previous Kalpa, does rather support the god-swapping theory of the Summoning Day Letters, come to think of it. His father was a god of the last Kalpa who bears a striking resemblance to a race of Daedra in this one.

But then you remember that Meridia's actually Magne Ge. And things get complicated again.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:49 pm

I was under the impression that Umaril had given his soul to Meridia and in exhange, was granted both immortality, and a set of daedric warriors that bared his image...

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:41 pm

His auroran appearance, taken with the testimony that his sire was a god of the previous Kalpa, does rather support the god-swapping theory of the Summoning Day Letters, come to think of it. His father was a god of the last Kalpa who bears a striking resemblance to a race of Daedra in this one.

But then you remember that Meridia's actually Magne Ge. And things get complicated again.

I figured it was him binding himself to Meridia that resulted in his Auroran-like appearance.