Lonesome Road: How do you interpret the Courier's past?

Post » Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:10 am

So with the release of Lonesome Road, more of a concrete backstory was tacked onto our Couriers. Previously in the game and DLC, we had plenty opportunities to say we'd been certain places (New Reno, Utah, Montana) but they were all optional. In LR, Ulysses mentions we've traveled the Big Circle, and have been to the old Divide. Essentially, our Couriers have all been around. One thing that's sort of confusing is the whole idea of him asserting that the settlement that The Divide used to be was the Courier's "home". Not only that, but the Courier helped "create" it.

For many of our couriers, taking this at face value is sort of frustrating. For one, the Courier does not seem to be a homebody. Some dialogue suggests he/she does not know where she was born, and a lot of dialogue, particularly in Lonesome Road, suggests that he/she frequently travels and can't stay put for long. Also, if the Courier had a big role in creating a big and successful wasteland settlement, why the hell does he/she not know what the hell Ulysses is talking about in the DLC? If something like that is added to our character that late in the game, it's just so frustratingly vague. At the same time, however, that's the best part about it. The Courier is given the option of saying that Ulysses is just assuming, but in my opinion, it sort of makes him seem like even more of a misguided lunatic than he already is.

Now, he is known for speaking figuratively. My take is that when he's saying "you" created the town, forged the roads, he's not talking about the Courier individually. Instead, "you" is people like the Courier. People travelling to settlements, making them thrive. People with jobs like caravaneers, couriers, and mercenaries. In that way, our player character very much helped create the town. They don't have to be a frontier settler, sheriff, mayor, or what have you, they can just be what much of the game implies: a wandering, travelling, drifter. A Courier without a home. To me, it's extremely fitting.

I may not have conveyed my point as well as, say, Longknife, but what do you guys think? What are your interpretations of the info given by Lonesome Road?
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Lisa Robb
 
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Post » Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:50 pm

From what I can tell based on conversations with Ulysses, the Courier was always a west-coast person (thus putting the absolute final nail in the idea that the Courier could be the Lone Wanderer from FO3.) However, Ulysses is putting too much importance on what the town means to the Courier- it can be argued that the Courier played what they took to be a small role in the foundation of the town. He/She basically opened up the road to it, which allowed others to actually properly found the town. Then, he/she comes back with a NCR package that remotely detonates the atomic warheads under the town, destroying it.

Overall, the Courier only had two minor (from his/her perspective) encounters with the town. However, without the Courier, the town as we know it could not have been formed.

Also, Ulysses is completely off his rocker. I mean, logically he make sense, but it's the kind of logic behind gluing a peice of buttered bread to the back of a cat to create a perpetual motion machine (bread always lands butter-side down, cats always land on their feet. Glue the two together and they'll spin in place if they fall.) Internally, it makes complete sense, but it just doesn't work like that in the real world.
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Post » Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:00 am

From what I can tell based on conversations with Ulysses, the Courier was always a west-coast person (thus putting the absolute final nail in the idea that the Courier could be the Lone Wanderer from FO3.) However, Ulysses is putting too much importance on what the town means to the Courier- it can be argued that the Courier played what they took to be a small role in the foundation of the town. He/She basically opened up the road to it, which allowed others to actually properly found the town. Then, he/she comes back with a NCR package that remotely detonates the atomic warheads under the town, destroying it.

Overall, the Courier only had two minor (from his/her perspective) encounters with the town. However, without the Courier, the town as we know it could not have been formed.

Also, Ulysses is completely off his rocker. I mean, logically he make sense, but it's the kind of logic behind gluing a peice of buttered bread to the back of a cat to create a perpetual motion machine (bread always lands butter-side down, cats always land on their feet. Glue the two together and they'll spin in place if they fall.) Internally, it makes complete sense, but it just doesn't work like that in the real world.

It makes sense for Ulysses to be off his rocker, being forced into the Legion and having his tribe destroyed, and doing horrible things like helping the White Legs for Caesar. He's a genius, and a badass, but he is most certainly not mentally well.

And that's another good way to look at it. Remember the job Jackson gives you at the Mojave Outpost to clear the roads for caravans? It could have been almost the same thing.
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Post » Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:01 pm

I took it as we didnt ourselves doing anything major physically, we just opened the world up to the place by showing that their was outsiders and by making deliverys to show the world that the place existed and through those very small actions, big things came from it.

Qoute from one of my favorite series the wheel of time- "A butterfly flaps its wings and on the other side of the world a mountain crumbles"
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