Daedra Gods like the Titans and the Nine like the Greek Gods

Post » Mon Jul 02, 2012 4:13 am

I find this incredibly fascinating and funny in some part that when i think of the Daedra Gods they are like the Titans and the Nine Gods are like the Greek Gods

Oblivion=Tartarus
Aetherius=Mount Olympus

I would like to hear what you have to say though
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Post » Mon Jul 02, 2012 3:34 am

There is no reasonable comparison here that I can see. The Titans are the progenitors of the Greeks; the Daedra are to no indication the forefathers of the Aedra. Furthermore, the Daedra are not imprisoned in Oblivion by the Aedra as the Titans are imprisoned in Tartarus by their children.
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Post » Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:22 am

Meh, I think it goes further than that. It's only a kind of superficial similarity.

The Hindus (Devas and Asuras) and Vikings (Aesirs and Vanirs) also had similar mythologies of two clans of gods, IIRC.
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Post » Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:18 am

Meh, I think it goes further than that. It's only a kind of superficial similarity.

The Hindus (Devas and Asuras) and Vikings (Aesirs and Vanirs) also had similar mythologies of two clans of gods, IIRC.

i agree but it's something to laugh about and then say "yeah not so much" lol
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Post » Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:58 am

No, they're not that similar at all actually.

Daedra and Aedra are both Aldmeri words.

Aedra means "Our Ancestors" - the beings who participated in the creation of Mundus.

Daedra means "Not Our Ancestors" - the beings who chose not to cut pieces off themselves.

There are other groups that are harder to classify like Star Orphans, Hist and the like, but it all goes back to the Godhead and his first Subgradients named Anu and Padomay. TES lore is more like something out of ancient Hinduism, but that's not really a perfect comparison either.
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Post » Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:05 pm

I find this incredibly fascinating and funny in some part that when i think of the Daedra Gods they are like the Titans and the Nine Gods are like the Greek Gods

Oblivion=Tartarus
Aetherius=Mount Olympus

I would like to hear what you have to say though

Well, not exactly. I've certainly seen influences and aspects, especially in kirkbride religious texts, to ancient greek, babylonian, and other mythos of the old world. Take http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ananke_(mythology) for example. Her story will seem familiar to many forumites, I bet.

But in my eyes, it's not a one to one caparison by any means. That doesn't mean one didn't have a part to play in influencing the other.
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Post » Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:39 pm

Well, not exactly. I've certainly seen influences and aspects, especially in kirkbride religious texts, to ancient greek, babylonian, and other mythos of the old world. Take http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ananke_(mythology) for example. Her story will seem familiar to many forumites, I bet.

But in my eyes, it's not a one to one caparison by any means. That doesn't mean one didn't have a part to play in influencing the other.

Cool, thanks for sharing that link :) It got all too real when I got to "Homeric Moira" lol.
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Post » Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:23 pm

See this is why people need to do more movies and books in non-Greek mythology. It's been so oversold that now as soon as anything mythic happens we have people assuming "ohey greek."

EDIT: Also, the Aedra don't tend to be incistuous rapists who murder people and sometimes entire cities for the smallest imagined slights. The Grecko-Roman pantheon was big into that sort of thing. Especially Zeus.
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Post » Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:05 am

EDIT: Also, the Aedra don't tend to be incistuous rapists who murder people and sometimes entire cities for the smallest imagined slights. The Grecko-Roman pantheon was big into that sort of thing. Especially Zeus.

Would the anology work better if the Aedra = titans? It seems like the titans have closer ties to the primordial origin/creation of the Earth than the Olympians do, the defining feature of the Aedra.

The titans are also imprisoned in some fashion, IIRC, much like the Aedra are in Mundus.
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Post » Mon Jul 02, 2012 4:42 am

Would the anology work better if the Aedra = titans? It seems like the titans have closer ties to the primordial origin/creation of the Earth than the Olympians do, the defining feature of the Aedra.

The titans are also imprisoned in some fashion, IIRC, much like the Aedra are in Mundus.
I think that trying to link it to any one mythology, especially Greek mythology which has been so sanitised and simplified over time, is really an excesize in futility. But if you had to go with greek, the titans were also into incist and [censored]. Like the Daedra, they represented primordial, primarily external forces while the gods were a mix of external and internal forces (thunder, lust), like the Aedra who are justice, time, etc.
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Post » Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:55 am

Would the anology work better if the Aedra = titans? It seems like the titans have closer ties to the primordial origin/creation of the Earth than the Olympians do, the defining feature of the Aedra.

The titans are also imprisoned in some fashion, IIRC, much like the Aedra are in Mundus.

This makes more sense. But the key thing, IMO, is that the Titans are the progenitors of (most of) the rest of the Greek pantheon. There isn't really a corresponding relationship between Aedra and Daedra.
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