Light Elves v's Dark Elves : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:54 am

Dark elves I thought were associated with Brownies in mythology.

Or rather, what we think a stereotypical Dwarf is.

It's been a long time since ~~I've played through Shin Megami Tensei III~~ read up on my Norse myth/Germanic Folklore/etc.

As stated like 15 other times, this is not how it works. If you split up elves like this then you should split men and beasts too.

...fairness and all that bull.

Browines in Scottish myth were just mistreated house dwarves that followed you around your entire life. As punishment for your mistreatment, they'd do anything from punch you in the groin to burn your house down. Redcaps are by far the coolest dwarves. They hang out on top of old forts and murder anybody who gets too close. Then they die their caps in their victim's blood.

» Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:42 pm

And the Altmer don't recognize them as Mer either. But we're harkening back to the days of when they were considered the Manmeri. Even then, its hard to look at them today and go "Thats a human?" The fact is, you have to think about what they consider themselves, and so far it sure as hell isn't Merrish. Like I said, again, thats the Imperials who conglomerate Mer and Man cultures.

Even so, they have mer ancenstry and do not lightly forget it.

"Bretons are not an imaginative people, a legacy of the Elves, perhaps, and traditional ways are not lightly abandoned. Their villages are pleasant collections of half-timbered structures of one or two stories, with the rustic inn, a shop or two, and perhaps a lordly manor completing the picture. The traveler need not visit more than a handful of Breton communities before satisfying himself that he has captured the flavor of the whole. The people, too, despite their cherished particularism, are remarkably similar in name, accent, and dress throughout the province. It may be that this unacknowledged homogeneity bodes well for the future harmony of High Rock."

» Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:47 pm

Quoted from the Imperial Lib:

"Khosey, in his 'Tamrilean Tractates,' transcribes a firsthand account of the "discovery" of the Bretons by a Nordic hunting party. The Bretons, in ten generations of Elven intermingling and slavery, had become scarcely recognizable as humans. Indeed, the hunting party attacked them thinking they were some new strain of Aldmeri,"

Even the humans of that time didn't recognize them as humans.

It should be noted that not all Breton's were like that. Your talking about the Nord's very first encounters with the Bretons when the elves of High Rock were still at large and the melding continued. The Breton race has had era's to meld and change even more with the introduction of the other human races and the deffeat of their slave masters. I would agree that some Bretons might cling to pride of their Aldmeri heritiage, but the same cannot be said for the entire race and you can't confidently place the Bretons amoung the mer.

» Sat Jul 07, 2012 3:27 pm

It should be noted that not all Breton's were like that. Your talking about the Nord's very first encounters with the Bretons when the elves of High Rock were still at large and the melding continued. The Breton race has had era's to meld and change even more with the introduction of the other human races and the deffeat of their slave masters. I would agree that some Bretons might cling to pride of their Aldmeri heritiage, but the same cannot be said for the entire race and you can't confidently place the Bretons amoung the mer.

To the same token, you cannot place them confidently among men as well. That wa sall I was saying. I don't consider Bretons to be human, more of a mutt race, for lack of better terms.

» Sat Jul 07, 2012 10:56 am

I was of the understanding that a it was only a smaller percentage of elven genes absorbed. It was far from half. Therefore I'd find it a push to refer to them as "an Elven race" but rather "a human race with elven genes"

» Sat Jul 07, 2012 3:54 am

I was of the understanding that a it was only a smaller percentage of elven genes absorbed. It was far from half. Therefore I'd find it a push to refer to them as "an Elven race" but rather "a human race with elven genes"

Maybe this is the best way to describe it. Oh well, Sorry Bretties, I tried

» Sat Jul 07, 2012 7:32 am

To the same token, you cannot place them confidently among men as well. That wa sall I was saying. I don't consider Bretons to be human, more of a mutt race, for lack of better terms.

They are indeed a mutt race, the interbreeding has taken a sharp turn to the mannish side. The Merish blood is in their heritage, but thats it. Their no more Elvin then the Nibanese are Taseci.