Question about merging plugins

Post » Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:05 pm

I am trying my hand at using TES4Gecko to merge plugins, but I want to make sure I'm not messing up.

Here are the plugins I've merged so far:
3 Lost Spires UL patches
8 SM Plugin Refurbish plugins (I'm not using Vile Lair so I can't use the provided merged patch)

I'm thinking about merging:
2 Blood&Mud UL patches
3 OOO UL patches
4 Better Cities UL patches
5 Roads of Cyrodiil patches

Are these all the kinds of plugins that are safe to merge?
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Lucie H
 
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Post » Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:13 am

Merging patches can be very hit and miss. Patches often have to go after and before various other mods in the load order, and thus merging patches can create problems with extensive load orders.
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Kortniie Dumont
 
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Post » Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:41 pm

Merging patches can be very hit and miss. Patches often have to go after and before various other mods in the load order, and thus merging patches can create problems with extensive load orders.

Ah, that makes sense. Thank you.

I would welcome any suggestions on which plugins I can merge. Here's my load order:

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00 Oblivion.esm

01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.34]

02 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 5.0]

03 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 5.0]

04 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.73]

05 TamRes.esm

06 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]

07 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]

08 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3]

09 Kvatch Rebuilt.esm

0A Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 5.1.8]

0B Fundament.esm [Version ision]

0C NNWAEMaster.esm

0D CM Partners.esm

** TNR - ShiveringIsles.esp

0E Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0]

0F DLCShiveringIsles.esp

10 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.0]

11 SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp [Version 1.30]

12 Better Cities .esp [Version 4.7.0]

13 Francesco's Creatures and Items Resources.esp [Version 5.0]

14 TamRes.esp

15 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp [Version 5.0]

16 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp [Version 5.0]

17 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp [Version 5.0]

18 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp [Version 5.0]

++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]

++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]

19 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]

++ LoadingScreens.esp

1A Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

1B All Natural.esp [Version 1.34]

1C All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.34]

++ All Natural - MMM Patch.esp [Version 1.3]

1D Immersive Interiors.esp [Version 0.8.1]

1E OBGE - Liquid Water.esp

1F Better Rainbows.esp

20 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.34]

21 WindowLightingSystem.esp

22 Book Jackets Oblivion.esp

23 ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp

24 Days&Months.esp

25 ImprovedSigns.esp

26 Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 5.4.3]

27 Choices and Consequences.esp [Version 2.1]

28 BookTrackerOBSE.esp

29 Enhanced Seasons.esp [Version 1.3.2]

2A FormID Finder4.esp

2B Get Wet - just droplets.esp

2C Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp [Version 0.42]

2D Streamline 3.1.esp

2E Dynamic Map.esp [Version 2.1.1]

2F Map Marker Overhaul.esp [Version 3.9.3]

30 Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp [Version 3.9.3]

31 Enhanced Hotkeys.esp [Version 2.3.1]

32 DLCHorseArmor.esp

33 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7]

34 SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp [Version 1.11]

35 DLCOrrery.esp

36 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]

37 SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp [Version 1.11]

38 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

39 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]

3A SM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.esp [Version 1.30]

** Book Jackets DLC.esp

3B CapesandCloaks.esp

3C SaddleBag.esp

3D DLCThievesDen.esp

3E DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10]

3F SM Plugin Refurbish - ThievesDen.esp [Version 1.30]

++ MMM_Runeskull_Rebalance_BETA2.esp [Version Beta]

40 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.73]

41 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]

42 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp [Version 1.09]

43 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB5]

44 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]

45 Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp

46 Alluring Wine Bottles.esp

** OMOBS_SI.esp [Version 2.0]

47 Choices and Consequences - OOO.esp [Version 2.0]

48 OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]

49 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]

++ FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2]

4A FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]

4B FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp [Version 0.9.9]

++ FCOM_SpawnRatesReduced.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]

4C Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

++ FCOM_LessRats.esp [Version 0.9.9]

4D Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Blood.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

4E Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

4F Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

50 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

++ Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

++ FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]

++ FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp [Version 0.9.9]

** FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp [Version 0.9.9]

51 FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp [Version 0.9.9]

52 FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp [Version 0.9.9]

++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

** Fransfemale.esp

** LoadingScreens-OOO.esp

++ MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.73]

** EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp

53 Kragenir's Death Quest.esp [Version 2.11]

54 Kvatch Rebuilt.esp

++ Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp

55 Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp

56 Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp

57 LetThePeopleDrink.esp [Version 2.6]

58 KragenirsDeathQuest-LetThePeopleDrink patch.esp

59 NNWAREAyleidDungeons_Series1EV.esp [Version 2.2b]

5A NNWAEDungeons-Series2EV.esp

5B NNWARE06-RhyeliaEmeroEV.esp

5C The Ayleid Steps.esp [Version 3.4.1]

5D VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp

5E VHBloodlines 1.2.esp [Version 1.5.6]

5F DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

60 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]

61 SM Plugin Refurbish - Battlehorn.esp [Version 1.30]

62 DLCFrostcrag.esp

63 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]

64 DLCFrostcragReborn.esp [Version 1.4.7]

65 Kvatch Rebuilt + Frostcrag Reborn De-Isolated Teleport Patch.esp [Version 1.0]

66 SM Plugin Refurbish - Frostcrag.esp [Version 1.2]

67 FrostcragRebornCobl.esp

68 Knights.esp

** Knights - Book Jackets.esp

69 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.2]

++ SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp [Version 1.06]

6A TOTF.esp

6B RTT.esp

6C The Lost Spires.esp

6D Blood&Mud.esp

** Blood&Mud - EE patch.esp [Version 4.2]

6E Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp

6F Shadowcrest_Vineyard_COBL.esp

70 FCOM_Blood&Mud.esp [Version 0.9.9]

++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]

71 Roads of Cyrodiil.esp [Version 1.0]

72 ROC+Shadowcrest Vineyard Patch.esp [Version 1.0]

73 HeartOftheDead.esp [Version 6.0]

74 Better daedric shrines full.esp

75 Faregyl.esp [Version 2.0.10]

76 Feldscar.esp [Version 1.0.13]

77 Gottshaw Village.esp [Version 1.0]

78 Molapi.esp [Version 1.0.1]

79 Reedstand.esp [Version 1.0.4]

7A Urasek.esp [Version 1.0.4]

7B Vergayun.esp [Version 2.0.2]

7C xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5]

7D LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp

7E xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2]

7F xulTheHeath.esp

80 xulEntiusGorge.esp [Version 1.2.1]

81 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1]

82 LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp

83 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.2]

84 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.3]

85 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.5]

86 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.4]

87 xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3.2]

88 xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.4]

89 xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6]

8A ROC+Ancient Redwoods.esp [Version 1.0]

8B xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3]

8C xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.4]

8D xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1]

8E HeartoftheDead-ArriusCreek patch.esp

8F xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.3]

90 xulPantherRiver.esp

91 Blood&Mud-PantherRiver patch.esp

92 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2]

93 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.1.1]

94 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.8]

95 xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.1.0]

96 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1]

97 Blood&Mud-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp

98 TearsOfTheFiend-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp

99 KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp

9A xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.2]

9B xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.2]

9C ROC+UL Skingrad Outskirts Patch.esp

9D xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0.5]

9E Feldscar+Snowdale Patch.esp [Version 1.0.2]

9F FrostcragReborn-Snowdale patch.esp

A0 OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp [Version 1.1]

A1 xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp [Version 1.12]

A2 OOO-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp [Version 1.2]

A3 MMMDungeons-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp [Version 1.0]

A4 xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp [Version 1.0.3]

A5 Lost Spires + Silverfish River Patch.esp [Version 1.0]

A6 xulJerallGlacier.esp [Version 1.0.1]

A7 OOO-JerallGlacier patch.esp [Version 1.0]

A8 AyleidRuinsixpanded-JerallGlacier patch.esp [Version 1.0]

A9 xulTheEasternPeaks.esp [Version 1.0]

AA ROC+UL-II+LtPD Patch.esp [Version 1.0]

AB BetterDaedricShrinesFull-UniqueLandscapes patch.esp [Version 2.0]

AC KragenirsDeathQuest-UniqueLandscapes Merged patch.esp [Version 2.0]

AD Frostcrag Village.esp [Version 1.0.7]

AE DLCFrostcrag Reborn - Frostcrag Village Patch.esp [Version 1.4.7]

AF Fort Akatosh Redux.esp

B0 ROC+Fort Akatosh Redux.esp

B1 Sutch Village.esp [Version 1.0.2]

B2 LostCoast + SutchVillage Patch.esp [Version 1.0]

B3 Better Cities - House price patch.esp [Version 1.0]

B4 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]

++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]

B5 AutoBookPlacer.esp [Version 3.02]

B6 Better Dungeons.esp

B7 Cliff_BetterLetters.esp [Version 1.2]

B8 Leviathan Soulgems.esp

++ GotNoClass.esp

B9 Enhanced Vegetation [150%].esp

BA Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp [Version 3.2.0]

BB Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp [Version 5.4.3]

BC Alternative Beginnings.esp [Version 1.3]

BD RealisticFatigue.esp

BE Basic Primary Needs.esp [Version 6.0]

BF Circ Vamp Aesthetics.esp

C0 RefScope.esp [Version 2.1.2]

C1 SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.90b]

C2 SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.90]

++ SM_OOO.esp [Version 0.90]

++ SM_MMM.esp [Version 0.90]

++ SM_COBL.esp [Version 0.90]

C3 SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.90]

++ SM_Scrolls.esp [Version 0.90]

++ SM_SigilStone.esp [Version 0.90]

C4 MidasSpells.esp

C5 Syc_AtHomeAlchemy.esp

C6 ZumbsLockpickingMod - OBSE.esp

C7 Bundlement.esp [Version ision]

C8 nGCD.esp

C9 nGCD Oghma Infinium.esp

++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.76]

++ Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp [Version 0.76]

++ Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp [Version 0.76]

CA 1em_Vilja.esp [Version 4.04]

** 1em_Vilja OOO FCOM Fix.esp

++ 1em_ViljaCool46.esp

CB bgBalancingEVCore.esp [Version 10.52EV-D]

++ Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

CC bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.7EV]

++ bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp [Version 1.68EV]

++ bgMagicEV_Conjuration_for_Supreme_Magicka.esp [Version 1.7.7]

++ bgBalancingEVOptionalFangs.esp [Version 10.0EV-D]

++ bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp [Version 10]

** bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, TNR Merge.esp [Version 10.0EV-D]

++ bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp [Version 10.]

CD bgBalancingOptionalNPCDiversityKvatchRebuilt, for Wrye Bash.esp [Version 9.0EV-D]

CE bgIntegrationEV.esp [Version 1.0b]

CF Silverfish&bgIntegrationPatch.esp

D0 Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp [Version 5.1.7]

D1 Better Imperial City.esp [Version 5.1.8]

D2 Better Cities - All Natural.esp [Version 4.9.5]

D3 Better Cities B&M - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp [Version 4.9.5]

D4 Better Cities - Ruined Tail's Tale.esp [Version 5.0.0]

D5 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp [Version 5.1.0]

D6 Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp [Version 5.0.8]

D7 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp [Version 5.0.0]

D8 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp [Version 5.1.0]

D9 Better Cities - VHBloodlines.esp [Version 4.8.4]

DA Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp [Version 5.0.0]

DB Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 2.1]

DC Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp [Version 4.8.1]

** FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9]

** ROC Standard Road Record.esp

++ Bashed Delayers - MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 3.1.29b]

** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.34]

DD Bashed Patch, 0.esp
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Victoria Vasileva
 
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Post » Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:15 am

This subject came up a while ago. Suggest you read the threads 'http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1362929-merging-mods-with-ini-files' and 'http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1376687-need-advice-on-what-to-merge-and-not-to'. Ask questions there as it will revive a useful topic.

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