Persistent CTD problem : III

» Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:39 pm

I have just installed Morrowind on my new computer. I am, however, receiving a persistent CTD error. It almost always happens either right before or right after race selection; the furthest I've gotten before experiencing it was right before entering the Census and Excise Office. Sometimes it even occurs right after exiting the ship. I first noticed it after installing MGE XE--so I uninstalled MGE XE and installed MGE. In both versions distant land was not showing up, despite being calculated and enabled; with plain MGE the water looks atrocious despite using a water shader. Since I first noticed the problem after installing MGE XE (I had to start the game once, of course, to install MGE, and I did not encounter the error--but I also did not yet have any mods installed, either), I suspect MGE XE/MGE is the culprit, but here's my mod list, too, just in case.

GameFile0=Bloodmoon.esm
GameFile1=Morrowind Patch 1.6.5 Beta (BTB Edit).esm
GameFile2=Morrowind.esm
GameFile3=Texture Fix - Bloodmoon 1.1.esm
GameFile4=Texture Fix 1.8.esm
GameFile5=Tribunal.esm
GameFile6=Better Bodies.esp
GameFile7=BLLDV_ALL.esp
GameFile8=ExpandedBirthsigns4Purists.esp
GameFile9=Kalian's Hairs.esp
GameFile10=New Argonian Bodies - Clean.esp
GameFile11=New Khajiit Bodies - Clean.esp
GameFile12=The_Tylwyth.esp
GameFile13=Vurt's Ashlands Overhaul.esp
GameFile14=Vurt's BC Tree Replacer II.ESP
GameFile15=Vurt's Corals.esp
GameFile16=Westly Presents_Tahnuk_Races.esp
GameFile17=Westly_Presents_Tang Mo_People of the Waters.esp
GameFile18=abotWaterLife.esm
GameFile19=MW_Children_1_0.esm
GameFile20=Hilgya the Seamstress.esm
GameFile21=Netch Adamantium Armor II.esp
GameFile22=LCV Schedule Markers.esp
GameFile23=NPC LCV Schedules 03.esp
GameFile24=20books.esp
GameFile25=shakti_temple_fences.esp
GameFile26=VTA_TravelBlood.esp
GameFile27=VTA_TravelTribun.esp
GameFile28=VTA_TravelBM+Trib.esp
GameFile29=Nymeria's Monthly Respawn.esp
GameFile30=Key Replacer Trib & BM.esp
GameFile31=Dagger of Symmachus.esp
GameFile32=Clear Ice.esp
GameFile33=Ice_GownOfAzura.esp
GameFile34=abotWhereAreAllBirdsGoing.esp
GameFile35=BB2_Peasant_Gowns.esp
GameFile36=Clear Glass.esp
GameFile37=Clean Solstheim_Castle_v1.1.esp
GameFile38=Ice_VictorianGown.esp
GameFile39=Clean BadKarma Clothing Vendor.esp
GameFile40=Fire Dancer Clothing by Leeloo.esp
GameFile41=Clean_Xia_Silk_Dragon_Imports_1.0.esp
GameFile42=Nonvdes.esp
GameFile43=House of Earthly Delights, Harem Style.esp
GameFile44=Ice_ElegantGowns.esp
GameFile45=Xenterra_Keep_v1.esp
GameFile46=Provincial_Bath _Shoppe_v1.esp
GameFile47=Slof's Goth Shop 1.1.esp
GameFile48=k_weather.esp
GameFile49=Charming Hairstyles II, by Mandamus.esp
GameFile50=Alienor Hairstyle by Mandamus.esp
GameFile51=Dragans Renaissance Clothes and more.esp
GameFile52=The Quixinite.esp
GameFile53=Slof's Goth Shop II.esp
GameFile54=New Netch-Adamantium Icons 1.01.esp
GameFile55=Seaside_Cottage_v1.esp
GameFile56=BB_Clothiers_of_Vvardenfell_v1.1.esp
GameFile57=IceNioLivRobeReplacerPLUS.esp
GameFile58=KS_Julan_Ashlander Companion_1.3.esp
GameFile59=Blademaster Armor.esp
GameFile60=Area Effect Arrows.esp
GameFile61=Particle Arrows.esp
GameFile62=Better Clothes_v1.1.esp
GameFile63=Charming Hairstyles by Mandamus-EV1.0.esp
GameFile64=The Shrine of Mephala by Westly.esp
GameFile65=Enhanced Detection.esp
GameFile66=Caius Constant effect items.esp
GameFile67=BB Dark Brotherhood by Westly.esp
GameFile68=DN_Umbra.esp
GameFile69=DN_AshVampires.esp
GameFile70=Happy Holidays_Westly_2007.esp
GameFile71=Westly's Master Headpack X.esp
GameFile72=Vality's Balmora Addon.esp
GameFile73=Westly Presents_Halflings (UNDERWEAR).esp
GameFile74=Clean Faylynns Necklace Pack.esp
GameFile75=Spect Sorcery pt 1.esp
GameFile76=Corean_Hair_in_Morrowind.esp
GameFile77=Westly_Presents_Kheran_X.esp
GameFile78=Fliggerty's Fleeing Fetchers.esp
GameFile79=DN_Adamantium.esp
GameFile80=DN_IceBlade.esp
GameFile81=Exotic Imports by Westly.esp
GameFile82=MW_family2_0.esp
GameFile83=LotsOfRingsPlus.esp
GameFile84=Hilgya the Seamstress Expansion 1.esp
GameFile85=Silt Strider Armor - Ashlander Guards.ESP
GameFile86=Westly Presents_Exiles of Akavir.esp
GameFile87=Better Telekinesis.esp
GameFile88=Aurore's Hairstyle by Mandamus.esp
GameFile89=Scout's Services 2.esp
GameFile90=Alakazar's Lamp.esp
GameFile91=Charming Ash Vampires.ESP
GameFile92=almalexia armor.esp
GameFile93=Westly Presents_Creed of the Assassin.esp
GameFile94=Westly Presents_Aureals.esp
GameFile95=Gondoliers.esp
GameFile96=SR-Speechcraft What Not to Say.ESP
GameFile97=Class Abilities 3.1.esp
GameFile98=Useful Starting Spells.esp
GameFile99=Clean Hold it.esp
GameFile100=Clean hold it-replacer.esp
GameFile101=AOF_Undies.esp
GameFile102=Freed Slaves Counter Issued.esp
GameFile103=Fliggerty's Almanac.esp
GameFile104=Arrow De-nocker.esp
GameFile105=UniqueFinery_NoRobe.esp
GameFile106=Magicka Metamorphica.esp
GameFile107=victorian lace dress.esp
GameFile108=Encumbrancemult10.esp
GameFile109=CoM_Fix.ESP
GameFile110=Animated Morrowind 1.0.esp
GameFile111=Better Skulls.ESP
GameFile112=AllSpeeds.esp
GameFile113=Rectified Fines.ESP
GameFile114=UAR_ChodalaBoots.esp
GameFile115=Books of Vvardenfell_2.0.esp
GameFile116=BB_Grimoires.esp
GameFile117=Illy's Solsteim Rumour Fix.esp
GameFile118=Vurt's Solstheim Trees & Bushes Replacer.ESP
GameFile119=DreadKnight.ESP
GameFile120=Sotonhorian.ESP
GameFile121=Female_Ranger_Armor_1_1.esp
GameFile122=MA_nordamulets.ESP
GameFile123=Elemental Magicka 1.0.esp
GameFile124=Westly_Presents_Unique_Corprus_Stalkers.esp
GameFile125=Westly_Presents_Unique_Winged_Twilights.esp
GameFile126=More Better Clothes.ESP
GameFile127=Animated Morrowind II.esp
GameFile128=AAG_StatusBars.esp
GameFile129=MQE_MainQuestEnhancers.ESP
GameFile130=ICG v1.31.esp
GameFile131=Painkiller's Lucky Coin.esp

Any ideas? Quickly glancing over it myself, I didn't see any obvious conflicts.

For reference, I'm running on Windows 7 (yes, I'm running in compatibility mode and as administrator), with 12 GB RAM, an NVIDIA graphics card, and plenty of extra room. I have no frame rate issues, which in the past have generally accompanied CTDs for me.

» Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:35 pm

For conflicts, you might try mlox and/or TESPCD. They approach the conflict problem in different ways, so it's handy to be able to use both.

There's always the tried and true, but tedious bisect technique: disable half your mods, if the problem stops it's probably in one of the mods in the half you disabled. Then enable half of those ... and so on.

» Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:38 pm

With regular MGE you have to enable pixel shading in the morrowind launcher. Then its all better - had that problem myself.

» Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:55 pm

Thanks, we'll see if that solves the problem...

» Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:50 am

Oh - I meant that it will solve the ugly water problem. I looked over your mod load and I don't know how to stop the actual CTD. If you were responding to john, then good - mlox might be the best way to detect a conflict.

» Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:02 am

Yeah, mlox solved my CTD.

And updating MGE to SVN 118 fixed my ugly water; apparently my water shader required SVN117 or later...