Glitch when drawing a bow

Post » Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:37 pm

Hello everyone!
I was away from oblivion for a couple years now, so I decided to get back to it and see what has changed since. I must admit I am amazed by the progress made. Anyhow, I've spent last 2 days getting the mods and reading about new tools. So far the only issue is visual glitch when drawing a bow. For some reason, it looks as if the camera is placed too far away from the skeleton. Removing UV2 fixes this, but I haven't been able to find any other case of this happening so I figured it was probably due to some strange mod conflict.
Here is the image of the glitch:
http://s15.postimage.org/ea5klrlkr/Screen_Shot0.jpg
It happens also while standing, only then the right arm is missing. I've tried couple of races and all seem to have the same problem.
Here's my load order:

Active Mod Files:
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00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.34]02  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.35Beta]03  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 5.2.0]04  Fundament.esm  [Version ision]05  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.4.1]06  DLCShiveringIsles.esp07  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.5.1]08  Better Cities .esp  [Version 4.7.0]09  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.34]0A  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.34]0B  PTAutumnTrees.esp0C  Realistic Water.esp0D  Better Rainbows.esp0E  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.34]0F  diversegrasses.esp10  PTFallingStars.esp11  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.4.3]12  Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp  [Version 0.42]13  Streamline 3.1.esp14  Dynamic Map.esp  [Version 2.1.1]15  DLCHorseArmor.esp16  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]17  DLCOrrery.esp18  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]19  DLCVileLair.esp1A  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]1B  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp1C  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]1D  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp1E  Explosives.esp1F  DLCThievesDen.esp20  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]21  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]22  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.35Beta]++  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul - No Daedric Items.esp**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 2.0]23  KDCircletsOOOOptimized - Loot Only.esp  [Version 1.2]**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer for OOO.esp24  Weapon Expansion Pack for Oblivion Nthusiasts.esp  [Version 1.03]25  Ivellon.esp  [Version 1.8]26  300 Regal Imperial City 2.esp27  Better Abandoned House.esp  [Version 2.0]28  Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp  [Version 3.21]29  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp2A  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]2B  DLCFrostcrag.esp2C  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]2D  Knights.esp2E  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]**  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp2F  SM Plugin Refurbish(Merged).esp  [Version 1.30]++  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul - Knights of Nine.esp30  Better daedric shrines full.esp31  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]32  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]33  xulTheHeath.esp34  XulEntiusGorge.esp  [Version 1.2.1]35  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]36  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.2]37  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.3]38  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.5]39  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.4]3A  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.2]3B  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.4]3C  BetterDaedricShrinesFull-AncientYews patch.esp  [Version 2.0]3D  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]3E  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]3F  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.4]40  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]41  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.3]42  xulPantherRiver.esp43  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]44  BetterDaedricShrinesFull-RiverEthe patch.esp  [Version 2.0]45  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1.1]46  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.8]47  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]48  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]49  Cheydinhal Land Texture Fix UL.esp  [Version 2.0]4A  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]4B  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.2]4C  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.5]4D  OOO-Snowdale patch.esp  [Version 1.1]4E  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp  [Version 1.12]4F  OOO-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp  [Version 1.2]50  xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp  [Version 1.0.3]51  xulJerallGlacier.esp  [Version 1.0.1]52  OOO-JerallGlacier patch.esp  [Version 1.0]53  xulTheEasternPeaks.esp  [Version 1.0]54  Better Cities - House price patch.esp  [Version 1.0]55  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]56  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  KoldornsImprovedLava2.esp57  Better Dungeons.esp58  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp59  Quest Item Tag Remover.esp5A  Respawning Varla & Welkynd Stones.esp  [Version 1.2]++  ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp5B  Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp  [Version 3.2.0]5C  Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp  [Version 5.4.3]5D  Quest Award Leveller.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Battlehorn Castle.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp5E  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp5F  Ronyns_Realistic_and_Fun_Acrobatics-8494.esp60  Disenchant.esp61  EnchantmentRestore.esp++  EnchantmentRestore_Wells.esp62  No psychic guards v1.2.esp63  Denock Arrows.esp64  Bundlement.esp  [Version ision]65  nGCD.esp66  nGCD Oghma Infinium.esp67  X.Races.Comp.esp68  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.52EV-D]++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp69  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicItemSigil.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.68EV]6A  bgMagicBonus.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp  [Version 1.68EV]6B  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV]6C  bgMagicAlchemy.esp  [Version 1.57]6D  bgMagicPotionNumberSoulGemValue.esp  [Version 1.68UV]6E  bgBalancingOptionalLessHealth.esp  [Version 10.0UV-U]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalClasses.esp  [Version 9.0EV-U]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalFangs.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp  [Version 10]6F  bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp  [Version 10.51EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV]**  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp  [Version 10.5EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalSeamReducerHighElfFix.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]70  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 5.2.0]71  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp  [Version 4.7.0]72  Better Cities IC Arboretum.esp  [Version 5.2.0]73  Better Cities IC Arcane University.esp  [Version 5.2.0]74  Better Cities IC Arena.esp  [Version 5.2.0]75  Better Cities IC Elven Gardens.esp  [Version 5.2.0]76  Better Cities IC Green Emperor Way.esp  [Version 5.2.0]77  Better Cities IC Market.esp  [Version 5.2.0]78  Better Cities IC Prison.esp  [Version 5.2.0]79  Better Cities IC Talos Plaza.esp  [Version 5.2.0]7A  Better Cities IC Temple.esp  [Version 5.2.0]7B  Better Cities IC Waterfront.esp  [Version 5.2.0]7C  Better Abandoned House - BC_OBC Patch.esp  [Version 2.0]7D  Better Cities - All Natural.esp  [Version 4.9.5]7E  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp  [Version 5.1.2]7F  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp  [Version 5.1.0]80  Better Cities - Knights of the Nine.esp  [Version 4.9.8]81  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp  [Version 5.0.0]82  Better Abandoned House - BC_OBC_UL Patch.esp  [Version 2.0]83  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp  [Version 5.1.0]84  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp  [Version 4.8.1]**  bgMagicEVShader.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp  [Version 1.68]85  bgMagicLightningbolt.esp86  UVII.esp++  OOO Harvest Containers Filter patch for mods.esp  [Version 1.03]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.34]87  Bashed Patch, 0.esp88  DynamicLeveledLists.esp
And all bain packages:

Bain Packages:
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++ 001 - UnofficialOfficialModsPatchv16.rar (B12A8771) (Installed)++ 002 - HiRes_Oblivion_Textures_v11-27887.7z (172E521B) (Installed)++ 003 - Vibrant_1-6-5-18677.7z (54075FCD) (Installed)++ 004 - Vibrant_SI_1-6-6-18677.7z (38A807DC) (Installed)++ 005 - Vibrant_Distant_Normal_1-31-18677.7z (1FED75BE) (Installed)++ 006 - Vibrant_Weather_Textures_1-3-18677.7z (B9BFD7D8) (Installed)++ 007 - InsanityLOD1024.rar (07FC7476) (Installed)++ 008 - VibrantDistantLOD-18677.7z (47E86048) (Installed)++ 009 - VibrantDistantLODSI-18677.7z (FB96C6FE) (Installed)++ 010 - OptimizedDistantLandMAX50percent.rar (4E760722) (Installed)++ 011 - Really_Textured_Normal_Maps_Part_1_BAIN-38350-1-1.7z (E700CBE6) (Installed)++ 012 - Really_Textured_Normal_Maps_Part_2_BAIN-38350-1-1.7z (6EFC2052) (Installed)++ 013 - Really_Textured_Normal_Maps_SI_BAIN-38350-0-991.7z (44C1B16E) (Installed)++ 014 - AmpolX Repackaged BAIN.7z (E07810A7) (Installed)++ 015 - AmpolX Normal Maps by Amnes-BAIN.7z (EFEF99C0) (Installed)++ 016 - Koldorns_Ayleid_Ruins_Textures-8277.zip (EEAAA6EF) (Installed)++ 017 - Koldorns_Cave_Textures_2_v1_1-9208.7z (C8AB3440) (Installed)++ 018 - Koldorns_Improved_Lava_2-8786.rar (E7578A71) (Installed)++ 019 - Koldorns_Sewer_Textures_2_v1_1-9080.7z (EB9DEE7B) (Installed)++ 020 - DarkerRegalICRedimized-15500.7z (3C9B49DC) (Installed)++ 021 - Harvest_Flora_v3_0_1.zip (9DD13311) (Installed)++ 022 - Brumbeks_Sky_Pack_1-1-14346-1.7z (B4AFAE81) (Installed)++ 023 - Improved_Bravil-10383.7z (90416603) (Installed)++ 024 - BravilUpdate-10383.7z (C53D1E8C) (Installed)++ 025 - Improved_Bruma-8954.7z (2196492E) (Installed)++ 026 - BrumaUpdate-8954.7z (0E431EB1) (Installed)++ 027 - Improved_Chorrol-9500.7z (4B037847) (Installed)++ 028 - ChorrolUpdate-9500.7z (3BC26B32) (Installed)++ 029 - Chorrol2011-9500-1.7z (5BB5F3A0) (Installed)++ 030 - ImprovedSkingrad.7z (D0D63E5D) (Installed)++ 031 - Improved_Doors_and_Flora-8298.7z (E68A60FF) (Installed)++ 032 - Improved_Fruits_Vegetables_and_Meats-10487.7z (25769256) (Installed)++ 033 - Improved_Sky_Textures-7694-1-1.7z (B59EE8DF) (Installed)++ 034 - Improved_Trees_and_Flora-8500.7z (13A4054B) (Installed)++ 035 - Improved_Trees_and_Flora_2-11891.7z (523A98DB) (Installed)++ 036 - ImprovedAmuletsAndRings-17147.7z (B81A2B2D) (Installed)++ 037 - Unique_Signs-25314.zip (D61E37D2) (Installed)++ 038 - Diverse Grasses 0.6 - Main.rar (2D0082B2) (Installed)++ 039 - FastExit_2-22410.zip (33FF14FA) (Installed)++ 040 - Enhanced_Vegetation_-_Normal_Res_Textures_v1dot1-23783.7z (06109377) (Installed)++ 041 - Glowier_Nirnroots-39222-1-0.7z (BB1EF1B0) (Installed)++ 042 - Autumn_Trees_V1_1-36561-1-1.7z (D4A93AFB) (Installed)++ 043 - Falling_Stars-35593-1.7z (E4FA2E18) (Installed)++ 044 - Better_daedric_shrines_full-34367-1.rar (B8D4041A) (Installed)++ 045 - Better_dungeons_BSA_version-40392-4-5.rar (029F5CF6) (Installed)++ 046 - Better_dungeons_V6_esp-40392-6.7z (E2336EAB) (Installed)++ 047 - Better_Rainbows_V1_1-36566.7z (541786A6) (Installed)++ 048 - Better_Dark_Brotherhood_Sanctuary-22135-3-21.7z (17794C02) (Installed)++ 049 - Better_Abandoned_House-25319-2-0.7z (DAF05620) (Installed)++ 050 - Normal_Res_textures-36411.rar (03AEE28D) (Installed)++ 051 - Madness_Armor_Retex_by_themythofstrider_and_insanitysorrow-29286.7z (930DCADF) (Installed)++ 052 - Mainfile-29569.7z (09DD4847) (Installed)++ 053 - Mythic_Amber_Armor_Final-37955-1-1.7z (E2B0BEA3) (Installed)++ 054 - Mythic_Animals_High_res_part_1-29638.7z (8135E561) (Installed)++ 055 - Mythic_Animals_High_res_part_2-29638.7z (293F018E) (Installed)++ 056 - Mythic_Gatekeeper-35951-1.7z (35093082) (Installed)++ 057 - Mythic_Ghosts_and_Goblins-36000-1.7z (F9044608) (Installed)++ 058 - Mythic_Madness-38251-1.7z (37A24745) (Installed)++ 059 - Insanity's Improved Armoury Compilation.rar (9451AD23) (Installed)++ 060 - Improved_Flora_Harvest_Fix-20109.7z (3753723E) (Installed)++ 061 - All_Natural_1-34-18305-1-34.7z (D572AA36) (Installed)++ 062 - Better_Cities_Permanent_Resources-16513.7z (E40E8173) (Installed)++ 063 - Better_Cities_Resources_v5-2-0-16513-5-2-0.7z (751FFAC9) (Installed)++ 064 - Better_Cities_v5-2-0-16513-5-2-0.7z (6D029588) (Installed)++ 065 - Better_Daedric_Shrines_-_Unique_Landscapes_patches_v2_0-13834.7z (35F1C11A) (Installed)++ 066 - Better_Cities_-_Unique_Landscapes_patches_v1_1-13834-1.7z (B72C90C2) (Installed)++ 067 - RAEVWD-20053.7z (73FB4AA0) (Installed)++ 068 - RAEVWD_SI_Edition-20053.7z (211DC158) (Installed)++ 069 - OBGE_Standalone_Effects-30054.7z (AF6AE740) (Installed)++ 072 - KoldornsLODnoiseReplacer-9952.rar (F15C44C4) (Installed)++ 073 - OOO135BSA.7z (0FC66A67) (Installed)++ 074 - OOO135.7z (81F216DC) (Installed)++ 075 - OOO MIssing Icons.7z (5D48169C) (Installed)++ 076 - OOO_-_Unique_Landscapes_patches_v1_0-13834.7z (9A8078F9) (Installed)++ 077 - Unique Landscapes Compilation 1.7.2.7z (AAFDB41D) (Installed)++ 078 - NoPsychicGuards.zip (BA62F84A) (Installed)++ 079 - Alternative_Start_V1-66-11495.zip (98479553) (Installed)++ 080 - Dynamic_Map_2_1_1-35969.7z (4FB40C92) (Installed)++ 081 - Borderless_Map_Icons-2487.zip (9220CE63) (Installed)++ 082 - disenchant.zip (7F06533F) (Installed)++ 083 - Enchantment_Restore_Over_Time-9544.zip (85AB7925) (Installed)++ 084 - Enhanced_Economy_5_4_3-25078.7z (F9D9AE4E) (Installed)++ 085 - KD_Circlets_OOO_1.32_Optimized_-_Version_1.2-10670.7z (4F953134) (Installed)++ 086 - Explosives_v1_2-32267-1-2.7z (30D87C38) (Installed)++ 087 - Fundament_R4_U1-41005-04-01.7z (66ECE040) (Installed)++ 088 - Ivellon-1.7a-English.7z (6C67141E) (Installed)++ 089 - Ivellon_Patch_1.8.7z (CB08BFDE) (Installed)++ 090 - LessAnnoyingMagicExperienceEV 1,7.7z (5F151FEF) (Installed)++ 091 - Light_Wood_UI-16769.rar (EB066532) (Installed)++ 092 - EVE_HGEC_BodyStock_and_Clothing_Wrye_Bash_BAIN_-24078.7z (4C684974) (Installed)++ 093 - EVEUpperShirt04CcupFix-24078.7z (DE7AECA8) (Installed)++ 094 - EVE_for_Oscuro_Oblivion_Overhaul_1_3_BAIN-24078.7z (1FEE0F34) (Installed)++ 095 - Natural_Faces_v95-1965.zip (B8029D49) (Installed)++ 096 - HiRezHGECbody.rar (4A29F787) (Installed)++ 097 - HiRezHGECface.rar (46AFF22B) (Installed)++ 098 - RPGblackdragontrees.rar (87B9C4C9) (Installed)++ 099 - RPGblackdragonGrass3s.rar (639E8655) (Installed)++ 100 - Body_Seam_Reducer_-19738.rar (0F378394) (Installed)++ 101 - NifSE_v1_1_Release-21292.7z (44A74EBB) (Installed)++ 102 - nGCD-14065-3-30.7z (BA34BE82) (Installed)++ 103 - OOO_Harvest_Containers_Filter_patch_for_mods-35127.7z (22302103) (Installed)++ 104 - Quest_Award_Leveler_-_Now_supports_Battlehorn_Castle-13536.rar (9ED3C3EC) (Installed)++ 105 - Quest_Item_Tag_Remover_v1.0-10956.rar (2A0889D8) (Installed)++ 106 - Race Balancing Project 10,5 - Installation Files Complete.7z (BE912B9F) (Installed)++ 107 - Race Balancing Project 10,5 EV.7z (022A98D4) (Installed)++ 108 - Respawning_Varla_and_Welkynd_Stones-29007-1-2.7z (DD906397) (Installed)++ 109 - Ronyns_Realistic_and_Fun_Acrobatics-8494.rar (10F787AE) (Installed)++ 110 - Shivering_Isles_Terrain_Map_v11-10292.rar (D71CCF33) (Installed)++ 111 - SM_Plugin_Refurbish_1-30-11474.zip (0E9AD5B7) (Installed)++ 112 - TQP_v3-2-0-12859.zip (BDC2F3A5) (Installed)++ 113 - UVII_-_BSA_Version_V2-1-0b-40310-V2-1-0b.7z (522FF210) (Installed)++ 114 - WEPON_Base_Install_Oblivion_and_SI-35560.7z (CFFEDBED) (Installed)++ 115 - WEPON_MOBS_Conversion-35560.7z (8F6D6169) (Installed)++ 116 - WEPONupdateMOBS_SI.rar (F3DE7D7B) (Installed)++ 117 - XRC_Main_File-29103.7z (7D77ED5F) (Installed)++ 118 - XRC_Vampire_Eye_Fix-29103.7z (F2874968) (Installed)++ 119 - OMOBS_Shivering_Isles-28537.7z (77C8070E) (Installed)++ 120 - DMQL-Normal_Maps_1024-32709.7z (FA0B50ED) (Installed)++ 121 - GeneratedDistantLOD.rar (BDAB5D38) (Installed)++ 122 - MenuQue_v9a-32200-1.zip (E17E8B93) (Installed)++ 123 - LongerArrows.rar (F68CB199) (Installed)++ 124 - LongerArrowsSI.rar (50836DD8) (Installed)++ 125 - DenockArrow-9333-1.zip (61C1D746) (Installed)++ 126 - Realistic_Water_v3-37794-3-0.zip (4819B275) (Installed)++ 127 - CleanedESP.rar (C8E23A33) (Installed)130 - ==Last==
Only non-bain mod I'm using is DarnUI.

Any help with this will be much appreciated.
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Marnesia Steele
 
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Post » Sat Jul 28, 2012 6:00 am

Does it happen no matter what you are wearing?
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NEGRO
 
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Post » Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:43 pm

Yes it does, tested couple of clothing items and armours right now.
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Claire
 
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Post » Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:14 pm

I don't see anything specific to the camera position issue, but your BAIN packages list is your 'Install Order'. That determines what files get physically overwritten on disk even before your 'Load Order' gets sorted. If you are hoping for a mod conflict to be at the root of your problem, that might be it as I see some issues there. Recommend you check out the 'http://tescosi.com/wiki/Main_Page' site, particularly the 'http://tescosi.com/wiki/A_General_Order_for_Installing_Mods' page. You can drag-and-drop the mod order in BAIN and then when completely done re-arranging, right-click on the 'Packages' column header and select the 'Anneal All' option to have BAIN re-apply the Install Order. However, it helps if you have archives of the vanilla content first in your install order so BAIN has access to the complete set of files. (Just in case something got overwritten and couldn't otherwise be restored.) 'http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1221695-relz-mom-multiple-oblivion-manager' is very helpful for this purpose.

-Dubious-
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Tamara Dost
 
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Post » Sat Jul 28, 2012 6:41 am

Thank you for the links, but I am aware of the install order, and I've checked to make sure that nothing overwrites UV2 skeleton files. I also checked with Tes4View for conflicts but it didn't show anything serious. Universal skeleton and first person (BBB) skeleton fix didn't help either, no matter what I keep getting same glitch.
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Miranda Taylor
 
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