Aka and a quote of MK quasi-crushed all my crazy theories on

Post » Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:22 am

Sorry for the tilte, I couldn't help myself

This is how i saw kalpas :

An Et'Ada, for example Lorkhan , decide (perhaps pushed by Sithis, in order to escape the Godhead's dream) to create the mortal world. Some Et'Ada refuse (daedra for this time), the other accept. "Lorkhan" is sundered by the "Time god" and his allies. There's the convention, and other distinction are done. End of Dawn Era.

Later, Alduin eat the world, and a new kalpa begin ;this time, according tohttp://www.gamesas.com/topic/1249697-on-boethiahs-summoning-day/, all is reseted : some mortals can ascends to an Et'Ada like rank and Divines, Daedra, and the others can change roles, ; thus, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1361719-xarxes-ohgma-and-hermaeus/page__p__20541924#entry20541924, http://imperial-library.info/content/imperial-census-daedra-lords:

Nocturnal is accorded the title Ur-dra by nearly all the Royalty of Oblivion. As the mother of night, she claims to be an aspect of the original Void itself, and it is generally deemed best to fortify this declaration in one’s evening prayers.

The different aspect of the "Time-God" can be explained by different ways; in fact, before they were only one time-god (Aka ?), who divided (but when and how ? because of Maruhkatis, with a retroactive effext for Aurie-El/Akatosh ?) into Akatosh, Auri-El, Alduin (Alduin can be regarded as a "son" of Akatosh if he separated from im). Another idea can be that each time, a new Dragon Time-God mantle the former, or at least oppose to the actual Space-God, and stay in the other kalpas ; that explain how http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1352265-akas-relation-to-kalpas/. Arkay may be only a kalpa old (http://imperial-library.info/content/nine-divines-arkayand http://www.imperial-library.info/content/forum-archives-michael-kirkbride)

Arkay: "Lies from a previous age."

The fact that the Space-God ma have different aspect (Shor is in the Dreamsleeve, or Sovngarde, but at least isn't the moons, contrary to Lorkhan). they may be http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1363364-a-nord-named-shor-mantled-lorkhan-in-the-previous-kalpa/page__p__20569922#entry20569922. The same could be said for others, like Auri-El.



OK, but lady_freyja reminded me of this :


http://www.imperial-library.info/content/world-eating-101

And all is ruined : how could there be a change in the Et'Adas roles when the kapa resets AFTER the convention ?
(http://imperial-library.info/content/dawn-eraandhttp://imperial-library.info/content/merethic-era on TIL)

These histories could be explained thus ; At the begining, we have the space and time gods, and some aedras and daedras. And Alduin doesn't eat the world ; he only eat all the people and the constructs, reseting to the begining of Merethic, with a return to Ehlnofeys. The ascended mortals, powerful enough to escape to Alduin, can take a place in the pantheons. And maybe even the "Aka" could split into different Time-Gods
Moreover, the history of the previous kalpa may have echoes in the actuel, and as each times there's a Shezzarine and an Akaic fight these fight may be confused with the original Aka/Lorkhan one.

An interessant point is that in my first theory, the Thalmor endeavour (destoying all and returning to The Anu/Padhome, or at least to he Et'Ada) wouldn't been permanent, as there would be another Et'Ada/ Space-God who would create a new world ; in the second, the Mundus wouldn't be ceated another time.)

In this second theory why is Alduin known as World-Eater ?
All is another times crushed, because of "Aka" (Ok, one of his aspects but I needed it for the title)



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Post » Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:46 pm

I consider MK's quote as Dawn Era is really a mixture of all possibilities, that the end of last kalpa IS the pre-beginning of the new kalpa, when the Destruction of the last kalpa and the Creation of the new kalpa are more or less the same, or at least very close to each other. Every Et'Ada, old and new, choose his own place at this house of possibilities. But as this period of time is not confirmed, it cannot be counted in the confirmed timeline of the new kalpa.

And the first day of the Merethic Era is the beginning of a confirmed timeline and a confirmed kalpa which had just finished its own creation process.

An interessant point is that in my first theory, the Thalmor endeavour (destoying all and returning to The Anu/Padhome, or at least to he Et'Ada) wouldn't been permanent, as there would be another Et'Ada/ Space-God who would create a new world ; in the second, the Mundus wouldn't be ceated another time.)

Well, still I think even in the second theory the Thalmor cannot succeed. As long as Padomay exists Lorkhan would exist, no matter how many aspects of Time-Space Dragon-Serpent the Thalmor erect or erase. The aspect of time-space who is soul of Sithis soul of Padomay is a must as Padomay is a must.
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Post » Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:18 am

On Boethiah's Summoning Days brings up some good theories but the whole idea of divine positions being up for grabs by anybody is shattered by the fact that only one thing changes each Kalpa.

As for Dawn Era being the Last Era of the Last Kalpa. The only way I can see that working is that Alduin resets the world to Convention when he devours the world.

After Alduin is done the universe doesn't reset to Aurbis it'll reset to Convention.
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Post » Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:37 pm


And all is ruined : how could there be a change in the Et'Adas roles when the kapa resets AFTER the convention ?


Part of a big deal regarding the convention is that it forces linear time to exist. Therefore, pretty much anything is possible without convention due to non linear time, even eventts that defy cause and effect. Thus, it is possible for kalpas to end/restart before they even exist, since there is no "before" or "after" without convention.
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