With the huge amount of intrest in and backlash from the new DLC Mothership Zeta announced by Bethesda and the argument about the numerous pop culture refrences in Fallout 1 and (especially) 2, I was wondering if anyone has ever considered the possibility that the Dr. Who and Starfleet special encounters caused the divergence of Fallout timelines from our reality.

I was 13 when Fallout 1 came out although I played both of them I was far more interested in Diablo II and Baldur's Gate back then so I never encountered them in the Wastes but seeing as both had Time-traveling elements and the current scinetific thought is that Time-travel creates an alternative reality whereas the actions of the reality created by the time travel is unrelated to the reality from where the time-slip came is it possible that Dr. Who created the events of the 50s culture progressing and the lack of development of the transistors and is it possible that during the years following the Great War the the star Fleet pod exited a time-slip and fell to the West Coast.

This most certainly doesn't explain the changes in science between our world and Fallout but what if Dr. Who changed Science through his manipulation of our reality or caused catastrophic damage to the Fallout Universe, whereas he completely changed how nature and science interact through the use of his reality-bending time machine and the development of the modern electrical and technological world by causing the world to evolve without transistors (the bases of modern electricity which are not in the Fallout world).

I realise its without a doubt not the cause of the divergence but I think it is neat to create an explanation for these two pop culture jokes and if there existence somehow changed the Fallout universe from our own.

Maybe TARDIS remained on the West Coast after Dr. Who had changed the world and only reactivated once you came into range of it, maybe it was even protected form the nuclear devastation because it doe not belong to the universe it created (which would likely fit the 50s view on alterante realities)?

I mean any possibility is likely when Black Isles left most of the Game-world to speculation and fan fiction.

Or maybe Dr. Who was only stopping by to be a developers joke.

Well, the Story goes that The good Doctor was popping by the Fallout universe after hearing rumours about the rise of a "Master" with a super mutant army. But after he realised it wasnt "his" "Master", and the chances of supermutants being able to move through time, space and the Multiverse were almost nill, decided to be on his way.

Besides, if he'd have stuck around, Tandi would have ended up being the assistant and not had time to do all of her work getting the NCR on its feet...

Did the developers state this in the Bible, I can't remember most of what was in it?

And I'm not sure his exsistence would have interfered with Tandi, she was likely to be too [censored]y and would have drove him away, at least she was in 2?

There is nothing about the Doctor's intervention mentioned in the Fallout Bible. Mainly because it was intended as a special encounter, and purely a pop-culture reference. Ok, it's fun to speculate, but for the reason above it wouldn't be in the Fallout Bible.

In the events of Fallout 1 Tandi was a young girl yearning for adventure. If she had stumbled accross the Doctor - and she most likely would, as she ticks all the right boxes - the NCR may never have become the super-power it was by the time of Fallout 2 onward.

As they said in Fallout 2:

OT But there really needs to be a new Dr.Who game made. OT again there needs to be a decent Star Trek RPG aswell.

Absolutely not. Let's put an end to these out of character "jokes". The Zeta DLC should be ample reason why, if the fact that no RPG should contain NO out of character references isn't enough for you.

Along this line of logic, one could assume the reason the Brotherhood of Steel is so few and far between in Fallout 2 is because they've all been killed by the Vorpal Rat while looking for the Holy Hand Grenade or whatever.

Just some humour on my part

If the Doctor really did pop by, how could he not involve himself in the whole master thing? - its against everything he stands for! Another Davros breeding another master race...

The Doctor was drawn into the Wasteland by the mystical force of the developers liking his show. :rolleyes: