Good day,

I've recently returned back to Morrowind after few years, and after installing some of my essential mods and progressing a bit through the main storyline, I've already encountered a problem...

It seems like my saved games are randomly prone to corruption, I can save them and load them fine, and tomorrow I get an error message while loading that says "Cannot find script ' ct' for object 'mudcrab'", and then the whole application crashes.

Here is my mod list:

Masters for SaveXXVI0002.ess:001  Morrowind.esm002  Tribunal.esm003  Bloodmoon.esm004  TR_Data.esm005  TR_Map1.esm006  TR_Map2.esm007  Better Heads.esm008  Better Heads Tribunal addon.esm009  Better Heads Bloodmoon addon.esm010  MCA.esm011  MW_Children_1_0.esm012  BT_Whitewolf_2_0.esm013  Clean The Lost Artifacts of Morrowind.esm014  Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esm015  entertainers.esp016  AreaEffectArrows.esp017  bcsounds.esp018  master_index.esp019  EBQ_Artifact.esp020  Siege at Firemoth.esp021  Creatures.esp022  Westly's Master Headpack X.esp023  Charming Hairstyles II, by Mandamus.esp024  Better Bodies.esp025  Slof's Better Beasts a.esp026  Slof's BB neck fix.esp027  Better Clothes_v1.1_nac.esp028  DM_DB Armor Replacer-Exp.esp029  ale_clothing_v0.esp030  BLLDV_ALL.esp031  True Gems V1.1.esp032  moons_soulgems.esp033  Book Jackets - Morrowind.esp034  Book Jackets - Tribunal.esp035  Book Jackets - Bloodmoon.esp036  Vality's Ascadian Isles Addon.esp037  Vality's Bitter Coast Addon.esp038  Vality's Balmora Addon.esp039  Grass_West Gash.esp040  Grass_Ascadian Isles.esp041  Grass_Bitter Coast.esp042  Grass_Grazelands.esp043  Grass_Tamriel Rebuilt.esp044  Vurt's Ashlands Overhaul.esp045  Unique Banners and Signs.esp046  WA_Signy_Signposts(!).ESP047  WA_Signy_Signposts(!)_TR.ESP048  Morrowind Crafting 2-1.esp049  Necessities of Morrowind 2.1.esp  (Version 2.1)050  MCA - NOM Patch.esp051  MC_food_wNOM.esp052  MC_for_TR1v09.esp053  AtmosphericSoundEffects-3.0-Tribunal.esp054  Illuminated Windows.esp055  Illuminated Windows - Bloodmoon.esp056  ASE Tribunal Expansion.esp057  ASE Bloodmoon Expansion.esp058  CB-frostbolt_flare.esp059  Clean CB-illusionbolt1.0a.esp060  IceNioLivRobeReplacerALL.esp061  Clean Solstheim_Castle_v1.1.esp062  Clean SCastle_LoKKen_Patch.esp063  SSlave_Companions.esp064  SSlave_Comp_NOM_addon.esp065  Fligg's Slave Mod.esp066  ARJAN_A_Lords_Men_v2.0.esp067  Provincial_Bath _Shoppe_v1.esp068  Blasphemous Revenants.esp069  The Ebony Blade V1.02.esp070  THE_UNDERGROUND_2.esp071  Sanity Globe for TU2_v1.esp072  UT2walkthrough.esp073  Illuminated Order v1.0.esp074  Illuminated Order v1.0 - Bloodmoon Compatibility Extras.esp075  All Destinations.esp076  Animated Morrowind 1.0.esp077  Join All Houses.esp078  LA_MWSE Addon.esp079  Clean Dragon Blade.esp080  DreadKnight.ESP081  TheForgottenShields - Artifacts_NG.esp082  No-Glo_0709.esp083  TLM - Complete.esp084  Mashed Lists.esp

Any help and insight would be greatly appreciated

- Devlin

Did you remove any mods recently? If you are using the MCP, you shouldn't have to worry about save-game corruption.

Nope, I've started the game and encountered the problem with the exactly same mod list and I haven't removed any, but thank you for your input

Try too start the game again and load the savegame. After the crash go inside your Data Files folder and post the entire text within a txt-file called Warnings.txt. This file contain many useful information about all kind of errors doing game loading and mod initialization. Then wait for a guru like john.moonsugar, he known alot about the inner file structure of esp and game files

If sometimes a savegame crashes on load and sometimes it doesn't, that could just be Morrowind being flaky like it is, in which case, it's safe to retry until the savegame loads and then play on.

If you get to a point where the savegame just will not load, then it's almost always due to some bad or stale data remaining in it, and that's a better description than corrupted, as the actual file format is usually fine.

The MCP is pretty essential to avoiding savegame crashes as Krovosos mentioned, so it wasn't clear if you've patched your Morrowind with it, but if if not, then it's highly recommended. It doesn't cure absolutely everything with savegames, but it is excellent protection for most problems. The new version (now in beta) will have even more good stuff in it.

I've occasionally been able to use Mash to get a stubborn savegame to load by using it's "remover" feature to remove "Spawned Creatures". This seems to move things around in memory enough that it will avoid some crash on load problems.

Lastly, if you could post the contents of your Warnings.txt (from the Morrowind directory), that might help. (on preview, I see Stacet is ahead of me ).

Thank you all for your thoughts!

I wasn't being clear on occasion my save game manages to somehow get all crooked and then stays like that, constant reloading bore no fruit either :/

Yes, I have patched my game with Morrowind Code Patch. (glad I did )

I've done what you said, and these are the contents of Warnings.txt:

Unable to find script '??t' on object 'mudcrab'.

I don't know if that will be of any help

Well, it is kind of interesting, as the garbled script name indicates that Morrowind has somehow gotten its memory corrupted. Sometimes this can be caused by strange things, like having too many savegames in your savegame folder (I think the total number has to be quite large, above 1000 or so, including the number of installed mods too). Or it could be that somehow the savegame or a mod has become corrupted on disk. This can happen, but it's actually pretty rare.

I see you have Creatures installed, which does put a script on mudcrabs. You could try an experiment: deactivate Creatures, use Mash to clean your savegame (In the "Saves" tab, click on the save and select "Repair all"). See if you can save/load, and then re-activate Creatures. I'd try that first and see if that clears things up.

Muchas gracias! I will try this right away.

It's working! Thank you all very much! You're stars.