man, a bunch of people have told me this but i can't bring myself to. i really don't like drew karpyshyn's writing - every time i SEE HIS NAME i think of the imoen/sendai assassination scene in the Throne of Bhaal novelization. brfrwff seriously how do you sixualize something like that.

edit ffff talonfire



can someone give me a quick runthrough of everything that BLATANTLY VIOLATES LORE that wasn't a) a limitation of the gameplay engine (the fact that ghouls are an npc race and thus use facegen, which is really limited, and thus don't look exactly like ghouls from F1+F2 (while feral ghouls and harold both look like ghouls, seeing as they don't use facegen)) or b) a design decision meant to introduce elements of the world (the enclave, FEV, etc.) to the incredibly large amount of people who have never played a Fallout game before?



they DON'T, bro. why do people say this. Oblivion was dumbed down, yes, but how is Fallout 3 catering to idiots? yes, it's obviously more CONSOLIZED or whatever than Fallout 1 and 2, but that comes with the style of gameplay - it's realtime, openworld, and has guns. Fallout 3 is a SIGNIFICANT improvement over Oblivion in terms of gameplay difficulty and intelligence.

if you're talking about the existence of the compass in general, it would be very nice if there was an option to toggle quest markers and location markers that didn't require modding. the compass is useful in trying to figure out which way to go to get from point a to point b without having to stop and check your pipboy every time you find some sort of landmark, but constant quest markers are dumb. that said, the amount of quest markers in Fallout 3 is considerably lower than in Oblivion. Fallout 3 is really a major improvement over pretty much every problem Oblivion had (meanwhile, in the distance, a Codexfriend chortles, then chokes on his root beer).

Ah, I misread "Me, I'll choose to play the [censored] games of today over any game from the past", I guess. I'd still play an old game over a new game if the old game was better (and all old games I still have pretty much are, heh). The technology they used to develop really doesn't come into play other than getting it to run on my machine's OS. Big leap for you to say I don't like the action or FP view or the "breathtaking" environments - that was one of the plus things to Fallout 3 : how the wasteland was represented. My main issue with it is what they filled that wasteland with, heh.

I just finished a play session of Alpha Centauri, a Civ II spinoff which is iso/tb. Works great for strat games, and IMO not so well for RPGs. Now if you like playing an RPG like a strat game, then fine for you.

For as much as I liked FO1, I disliked the ISO view. I disliked it in Ultima also. Used to be that was all that was available, but the Gold Box DnDs changed all of that.

what

didn't goldbox games come before iso was popular? i thought goldbox fpp was contemporary to late infocom.

Ultima 5, 1088. Pool of Radiance, 1988. Previous Ultimas were also ISO, of course. After Pool of Radiance, I began to prefer the FPP. Combat was still ISO, but i found that for EXPLORING, I much preferred FPP.

I always preferred iso for exploring myself. I tend to get lost in FPP games. And FPP of vision is hardly more realistic, given the limited field of vision.

Sorry folks, there are just too many underhanded insults both blatant and subtle in this thread to salvage it. Insulting others or sporting an air of arrogance because of their personal preferences, judging their intellect upon what games they enjoy and other such belittling behavior is a good way to get threads closed and warnings not to mention that it imminently discredits the person who is behaving in such a way.


Closed for flames and flamebait.