The Blades from Akavir...

Post » Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:42 pm

If I've understood correctly, the original Blades were from Akavir. As far as I know there are no humans there. Which Akaviri race were the Blades? The tiger people are buddies with the dragons and Tsaesci would not fit in the Blades armor (at least if they actually are snake people) so that leaves the apes, but I just can't imagine the apes being so sophisticated. Anyone know better?
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Post » Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:08 pm

There certainly were humans in Akavir, but the Tsaesci supposedly "ate" them. The question is whether the Tsaesci literally ate the humans, or rather they simply are the humans of Akavir and eating in this context is a philosophical concept.
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Post » Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:12 am

Crackpot theory incoming:

"Tsaesci" is also the name of the land of the Tsaesci, meaning "Snake palace". What if the snake-bodied Tsaesci are extinct? The men of Akavir found the ruins of their civilization (or were slaves who survived whatever killed the snakes) and took it over effectively becoming the Tsaesci culturally. Thus they were "eaten" by the Tsaesci culture.
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Post » Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:43 pm

makes sense. like in rome. rome conquers you then after so many tens of years the men of (insert name here) became romeman
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Post » Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:28 am

As far as I remember there 'were' humans in Akavir, although they left. Though, Viigthor's theory is a very cool one, however dont I recall a tsaesci advisor to someone who was literally described as snake-like?
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Post » Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:42 am

Crackpot theory incoming:

"Tsaesci" is also the name of the land of the Tsaesci, meaning "Snake palace". What if the snake-bodied Tsaesci are extinct? The men of Akavir found the ruins of their civilization (or were slaves who survived whatever killed the snakes) and took it over effectively becoming the Tsaesci culturally. Thus they were "eaten" by the Tsaesci culture.

I like this. A lot.

however dont I recall a tsaesci advisor to someone who was literally described as snake-like?

The only thing I recall is that Potentates Versidue-Shaie and Savirien-Chorak were described as snake-like, but the http://www.imperial-library.info/content/2920-last-year-first-era is to be taken with a grain of salt.
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Post » Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:54 am

As far as I remember there 'were' humans in Akavir, although they left. Though, Viigthor's theory is a very cool one, however dont I recall a tsaesci advisor to someone who was literally described as snake-like?

It is said Versidue-Shaie and his son were described as true snakes in the 2920 series because Tsaesci were described as humanish snakes in the reports of Uriel V's expedition to Akavir. The author didn't know how the Tsaesci at the end of 1st Era truly looked like either.
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Post » Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:38 am

The only thing I recall is that Potentates Versidue-Shaie and Savirien-Chorak were described as snake-like, but the http://www.imperial-library.info/content/2920-last-year-first-era is to be taken with a grain of salt.
There is also http://imperial-library.info/content/history-fighters-guild-first-edition.
In the dawn of the year 320, a kinsman of Versidae-Shaie, Dinieras-Ves "the Iron", presented himself with a host of companions before the Potentate. It was he who suggested an order of mercantile warriors-for-hire, who could be hired by nobility in lieu of a standing army. The employment would be temporary, and a percentage of the fee would go to the Potentate's government, thus putting salve on two of Versidae-Shaie's greatest pains.

Though it was then called The Syffim, after the Tsaesci word for 'soldiers,' the organization that was to be known as the Fighters Guild had been born.

[...] When Akavir attacked Tamriel in the 2703rd year of the 1st era, they had been beaten back by the Reman Dynasty. Now they had a Potentate on the throne, and with Dinieras-Ves's machinations, the local armies would also be Akaviri. What they had failed to do by combat, they would have successfully accomplished by patience. A traditional strategem, many scholars suggest, of the immortal snake men, the Tsaesci of Akavir, who always had time on their side.

The point, however, is largely academic. Though the Syffim did establish themselves in some kingdoms neighboring Cyrodiil, it became quickly apparent that local warriors were needed. Part of the problem was simply that there were not enough Akaviri for the work that needed to be done. Another part was that the snake men did not understand the geography and politics of the regions they were assigned.
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