The sleeping godhead? : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:02 am

Hi there fellow TES fans, a while ago i read one post that mantioned some one/some thing called The sleeping godhead.
i never heard about it before and haven't found any information regarding it.
Can anyone explain who or what is this thing?

» Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:58 am

Check out the http://imperial-library.info/content/loveletter-fifth-era-true-purpose-tamriel

» Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:36 am

I would answer you, but I see that Lady N is reading the topic, and I feel as if she will do better than I when it comes to writing up an explanation.

EDIT: Curses, I was Ninja'ed by Lady N!

» Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:47 am

So....
A sleeping godhead is even beyond godhood (CHIM)?
Lorkhan is a sleeping godhead?

» Mon Sep 17, 2012 6:23 am

There's no "a" to the Godhead, only "the." Everything in the world emanates from him. He's the epicenter of the big bang, if you will.

I would answer you, but I see that Lady N is reading the topic,

Most of the topics Lady N reads she doesn't actually reply to

» Mon Sep 17, 2012 6:12 am

In the beginning there were Anu and Padomay, from them came the Et'Ada who made Creation.
The Godhead is where Anu and Padomay came from. Together they are called the Aurbis.
In an effort to understand itself, the Godhead split into two diametrically opposing infinite spheres, that you could call order and chaos, Padomay and Anu.
The interplay between order and chaos is where the Et'Ada come from, they made the Mundus, which is Creation.
The Mundus has the planet of Nirn at the centre on which is the continent of Tamriel.
Those Et'Ada that participated in Creation are also responsible for the Ehlnofey, the ancestors of everything on Nirn except the Hist.

You can see the entire Aurbis, and everything that it holds, as the Godhead splitting itself into ever smaller and smaller fragments so that it can try to understand itself. This is called subgradiation.

Two things to note:
-The Godhead is not self-aware. It doesnt think or have a will. It is said to be dreaming, or sleeping, those words are approximations.
In the anology the 'dream' is existence, which is the 'dreamer' trying to understand itself, to become self-aware, to 'wake up'.

-To the best of my knowledge no-one in the Aurbis knows about the Godhead and he has not appeared in any game or other official source. It is apochryphal lore.
However, it is a very apt anology that explains a lot of things and ties things neatly together, so for people to gain a good understanding of TES myth it is a useful tool.

» Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:59 am

In the beginning there were Anu and Padomay, from them came the Et'Ada who made Creation.
The Godhead is where Anu and Padomay came from. Together they are called the Aurbis.
In an effort to understand itself, the Godhead split into two diametrically opposing infinite spheres, that you could call order and chaos, Padomay and Anu.
The interplay between order and chaos is where the Et'Ada come from, they made the Mundus, which is Creation.
The Mundus has the planet of Nirn at the centre on which is the continent of Tamriel.
Those Et'Ada that participated in Creation are also responsible for the Ehlnofey, the ancestors of everything on Nirn except the Hist.

You can see the entire Aurbis, and everything that it holds, as the Godhead splitting itself into ever smaller and smaller fragments so that it can try to understand itself. This is called subgradiation.

Two things to note:
-The Godhead is not self-aware. It doesnt think or have a will. It is said to be dreaming, or sleeping, those words are approximations.
In the anology the 'dream' is existence, which is the 'dreamer' trying to understand itself, to become self-aware, to 'wake up'.

-To the best of my knowledge no-one in the Aurbis knows about the Godhead and he has not appeared in any game or other official source. It is apochryphal lore.
However, it is a very apt anology that explains a lot of things and ties things neatly together, so for people to gain a good understanding of TES myth it is a useful tool.

say wut

? jk

» Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:34 am

Most of the topics Lady N reads she doesn't actually reply to :tongue:

Well, I rarely see you on gamesas anymore, so I get excited when I see you reading a topic at all

» Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:06 am

So the sleeping Godhead is actually a chain of events that lead to the craetion of everything that happened until now?
and the Godhead is not actualy alive and trying to wakeup buy subgradation, it's just an exaple so people can better understand this process?

» Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:21 am

There's no "a" to the Godhead, only "the." Everything in the world emanates from him. He's the epicenter of the big bang, if you will.

Actually, I'd beg to disagree. If Amaranth is what happens at Z, then the Amaranthee becomes a Godhead in their own universe, right? Who's to say that our Godhead isn't a Z-ed being from another Aurbis?

I'd explain it, but Merari hit the nail on the head already. Hard.

» Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:02 am

So the sleeping Godhead is actually a chain of events that lead to the craetion of everything that happened until now?
and the Godhead is not actualy alive and trying to wakeup buy subgradation, it's just an exaple so people can better understand this process?

More or less, yes.
There are other things involved such as the importance of myth in the world of TES and the reversal of subgradiation but thats the gist of it, yes.

» Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:51 am

Actually, I'd beg to disagree. If Amaranth is what happens at Z, then the Amaranthee becomes a Godhead in their own universe, right? Who's to say that our Godhead isn't a Z-ed being from another Aurbis?

I'd explain it, but Merari hit the nail on the head already. Hard.

I got the impression that Amaranth would involve an awareness on the part of the "amaranthee." Unlike the Godhead, who is asleep, a person who achieved Amaranth would be in a state between being awake and asleep, and thus could know and love the dream while still knowing themselves.

» Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:37 am

The godhead is the creature or being in whose dream the people and gods of the Aurbis exist.

» Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:42 pm

http://i.imgur.com/FTJwL.jpg

» Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:09 am

Whatever that is, I have the urge to put it on a t-shirt.

Yes, why not?
The central whirly thing could be Anu and Padomay and the middle bit the Aurbis.

» Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:14 am

The Godhead's dreaming created the world.

It's like one of the Hindu creation stories. Vishnu is sleeping and dreaming of a being (Brahma) who then begins to create the world.
Vishnu=Godhead
Brahma=Aurbis