..::THE COMMUNITY TECH THREAD No. 89::.. : Othor Games

» Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:13 pm

Got an odd request here. My father found a Dell Ultra Sharp LCD monitor at the local recycling depot the other day, and lo and behold, he brought it home and it works. Thing is, it missing the stand. Any one know where I might find a replacement? I believe the model is 1702FP

» Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:53 pm

Ok that helped me update .NET Framework but I still get an error with updating my drivers.

For updating my drivers, can anyone help?

» Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:51 pm

What PC model do you have? What brand and how many Watts is the Power Supply Unit? The 4670 and 4650 are decent low powered cards that are pretty cheap.

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ca/en/ho/WF06b/12132708-12133156-12133158-12133158-12133158-80626463-81048856.html

How do I find the watts for the power supply?

EDIT: Another question. If I did get a video card that could run Fallout 3 on medium settings, would it also be able to for Fallout: New Vegas? I'd rather spend more money on it now than have to buy another one later.

» Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:15 pm

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ca/en/ho/WF06b/12132708-12133156-12133158-12133158-12133158-80626463-81048856.html

How do I find the watts for the power supply?

You would have to take the cover off and look at the label on the power supply. But since it's a consumer HP, it's a near certainty that it is a cheap 300W Bestec. It is only good for the lowest-power graphics cards. ATI 4650, 4670, or 5670; nVidia GT 240. Those should pull high settings, no problem. Even then, if your budget runs to enough for both a graphics card and a power supply, a new power supply would be prudent. Nothing big, mind you; an Antec Earthwatts 380D would be plenty.

» Sun Feb 28, 2010 3:15 am

You would have to take the cover off and look at the label on the power supply. But since it's a consumer HP, it's a near certainty that it is a cheap 300W Bestec. It is only good for the lowest-power graphics cards. ATI 4650, 4670, or 5670; nVidia GT 240. Those should pull high settings, no problem. Even then, if your budget runs to enough for both a graphics card and a power supply, a new power supply would be prudent. Nothing big, mind you; an Antec Earthwatts 380D would be plenty.

How important is getting a new power supply? Would my current one be a problem for the ATI 4650?

» Sat Feb 27, 2010 3:38 pm

How important is getting a new power supply? Would my current one be a problem for the ATI 4650?

Likely not. The Radeon 4650 cards consume very little power, so you should be fine.

» Sun Feb 28, 2010 2:56 am

So I came to my girlfriend's house right after reinstall Win7 Pro on my laptop. Wireless at home was working fine, same with wired. While I am here they just have wireless, my laptop will connect tot he network but then say no internet access. I tried a winsock reset, releasing and renewing the IP address, and I let Windows reinstall my wireless drivers with no luck. I did double check the password which is correct, I even had her type it in, and I am assuming Windows chose the encryption type correctly when I went to connect but I tried a couple different things for that as well.

What else should I try? I really would like to get a connection on my laptop, but as it stands I have to use hers. It normally wouldn't be a big deal, but she is napping alot so I need something to do.

» Sat Feb 27, 2010 6:56 pm

EDIT: Another question. If I did get a video card that could run Fallout 3 on medium settings, would it also be able to for Fallout: New Vegas? I'd rather spend more money on it now than have to buy another one later.

Since it can run FO3 and FONV is using the same engine, any card that can play FO3 can play FONV. I would go with the 4670 or the 4650. Preferably the 4670 though, as Tig pointed out in another thread, the 4670 is almost twice as powerful as the 4650.

» Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:25 am

Since it can run FO3 and FONV is using the same engine, any card that can play FO3 can play FONV. I would go with the 4670 or the 4650. Preferably the 4670 though, as Tig pointed out in another thread, the 4670 is almost twice as powerful as the 4650.

Then I guess I'll go with the 4670 then. Thanks for the help guys.

» Sat Feb 27, 2010 5:54 pm

A quick question: I just built a PC for a customer and was payed fairly good money. I have been looking into upgrading my CPU cooler. I currently use a http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233003&cm_re=rifle_cpu_cooler-_-35-233-003-_-Product But I was looking into the http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181010&cm_re=H50-_-35-181-010-_-Product I have a pretty nice overclock on this PC, but in order to keep it stable while running Prime 95 with large FFTs I had to increase the voltage to 1.4625V for 4Ghz on my Phenom II x4 955. It idles at about 39C and maxed at 57C. Would I see a large decrease while using the water cooling?

» Sat Feb 27, 2010 3:30 pm

A quick question: I just built a PC for a customer and was payed fairly good money. I have been looking into upgrading my CPU cooler. I currently use a http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233003&cm_re=rifle_cpu_cooler-_-35-233-003-_-Product But I was looking into the http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181010&cm_re=H50-_-35-181-010-_-Product I have a pretty nice overclock on this PC, but in order to keep it stable while running Prime 95 with large FFTs I had to increase the voltage to 1.4625V for 4Ghz on my Phenom II x4 955. It idles at about 39C and maxed at 57C. Would I see a large decrease while using the water cooling?

Eh. There's quite a few better CPU coolers for the same or less. People just like the H50 because OMG WATER COOLING.

Get a coolermaster hyper 212+.

EDIT: the only reason to get it is if you don't have room for a large air cooler.

» Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:04 am

So, my gaming laptop died it's final death earlier this week and I've been on the lookout for a new computer since. A desktop computer this time, since that laptop gave me nothing but trouble. I think I've found a very good one for a decent price. However, since I don't know that much about computers and am always totally paranoid about buying expensive stuff I've decided to ask some advice here, to check if there isn't a part in it which is absolutely horrible and will blow up my pc within the month.

Here it is: http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/PC-Systemen_Complete_Systemen_Gaming_met_besturingssysteem/ALTERNATE/Saturnus_P010/443437/?.

Summary:
Processor: Intel? Core? i7-860 (2,8 GHz)
Graphics card: ATI Radeon HD5770
RAM: 4096 MB DDR3
Harddisk: 1.500 GB, SATA II / 5400rpm / 32MB / 8,9ms
And a 500 watt power supply.

I have no idea what most of the stuff on that page means, so any input would be greatly appreciated

» Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:43 pm

I have an H50 on my 3.8 OC'd q9550. The CPU was always warmer than other q9550, even at stock. I quite like it, and Corsair is a top notch company. (In the warranty department, they don't physically make the cooler. Coolit does.)

I like it as mentioned in the above edit, it's better than having a huge tower mucking up the interior of my case. (Though my old PC has such a HSF.) Not "OMG, water cooling"! If I was going to do that, I'd do it right. (Aim for the OMG factor.)

Helps I got mine for $10 bucks when I bought my case, but I'd buy another in heart beat if/when needed.

» Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:37 pm

This might be a bit off-topic but could someone explain or point to a site that explains the HD resolutions? (720p, 1080p and 1080i) I use them, (excpet the last, i think) but i don't understand them. I have a PS3 connected to a HDTV trough a HDMI connection, the TV apparently can only do 1080p, since games that have 1080i show up only at 720p according to the TV's menu. No, even i don't understand what i'm talking about :wacko:

» Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:53 am

This might be a bit off-topic but could someone explain or point to a site that explains the HD resolutions? (720p, 1080p and 1080i) I use them, (excpet the last, i think) but i don't understand them. I have a PS3 connected to a HDTV trough a HDMI connection, the TV apparently can only do 1080p, since games that have 1080i show up only at 720p according to the TV's menu. No, even i don't understand what i'm talking about :wacko:

What do want to know?

720i/p = 1280x720 pixel width/height
1080i/p is 1920x1080 pixel width/height

i being interlaced, p being progressive. TV signals will come in i, you want p in games.

TV apparently can only do 1080p

That's the best any TV can do. If it does 1080p, it does 1080i. HDMI is a standard, and has to stick to certain rules.

Check the PS3 settings for display, though it should just auto to 1080 with HDMI. The one here does, and all games advertise (TV) as 1080, even when they are 720.

» Sat Feb 27, 2010 2:02 pm

What do want to know?

720i/p = 1280x720 pixel width/height
1080i/p is 1920x1080 pixel width/height

i being interlaced, p being progressive. TV signals will come in i, you want p in games.

I was mostly looking for those numbers and what the p and i stand for, for example i thougth that 1080i was an even higher resolution

I have it connected to my PC trough a DVI connection, but as a PC monitor it's highest display mode is 1360*768 @ 60hz. Is that just a limitatiton of the DVI connection?

That's the best any TV can do. If it does 1080p, it does 1080i. HDMI is a standard, and has to stick to certain rules.

Check the PS3 settings for display, though it should just auto to 1080 with HDMI. The one here does, and all games advertise (TV) as 1080, even when they are 720.

I'll have to check that, i find PS3 configuration menu kind of confusing, and i think i lost the manual already :blush: One game shows 720p and 1080i on the box, the tv says it always runs in 720p so i was wondering why it doesn't use the higher mode.

» Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:30 am

I was mostly looking for those numbers and what the p and i stand for, for example i thougth that 1080i was an even higher resolution

I have it connected to my PC trough a DVI connection, but as a PC monitor it's highest display mode is 1360*768 @ 60hz. Is that just a limitatiton of the DVI connection?

I'll have to check that, i find PS3 configuration menu kind of confusing, and i think i lost the manual already :blush: One game shows 720p and 1080i on the box, the tv says it always runs in 720p so i was wondering why it doesn't use the higher mode.

Ok, I'm confused. So it's not an HDTV but a PC monitor?

If so, the 1360x768 why. You need a display option that supports 1080 signals. My TV is fully HD (1080) I think it's a crime to call anything but 1080 HD, but that is me. It leads to confusion. I almost bought an HDTV that was only capable of 720. That would have svcked!! 1080 looks so sweet on a 40"+ screen.

» Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:48 pm

Ok, I'm confused. So it's not an HDTV but a PC monitor?

It's both actually, almost the same as this http://www.lg.com/uk/it-products/monitors/LG-tv-monitor-M197WD.jsp, with the exception it has an built in digital decoder for the digital TV signals used in Finland, and only one HDMI connection. The manual suggest it supports 1080p mode trough HDMI, also it reports using it while PS3 is running.

Edit: yup, i found DVI-HDMI converter from my graphics card's box, and it indeed goes upto 1920*1080 trough that connection.

So now i need to buy another cord. The only HDMI is used by my PS3, but the TV also has component video input trough which it also supports 1080 mode, and luckily my computer's video card has a component video output. ...i think...

Another edit: I had a suitable cord in my "Things that may be useful in the future" drawer, and now i can run both in 1080 mode without constant pluggin and unplugging. Too bad my PC isn't quite up to it with newer games..

» Sat Feb 27, 2010 4:04 pm

The Remote sensor in my computer gets really hot sometimes when I play a game and my fans spin up to 100% and it's really annoying. CPU and GPU both are below 50C when I tab out to check when the fans spin up and remote is pushing 70C. When I close out of a game between refresh ticks maybe twice a second it drops from 70 to 60 and the fans slow down. What could remote possibly be? I have just a prebuilt HP that i'm using so it's not OCd or anything.

» Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:07 pm

If you flick back a few pages then you'll undoubtedly see my calamitous laptop OS downgrade, and I'm still having problems of some sort now with constant freezing. Every so often my screen will just freeze, the only way it can be resolved is by holding the power button to power off the machine. This problem occurred after I donwgraded my Acer Aspire 6530g from Vista to XP.

I also noticed it was running hot (Just by how it felt on my lap) so I installed some temperature measuring software (Speedfan, HWmonitor and HDD temperature) and it seems that my HDD is running at 51c, which is flagged as an "overheat" by HDD temperature. Is this particularly hot for a HDD in a laptop, I've read figures of around 30c are optimal. Could this have been caused by me having to change to IDE from AHCI in the BIOS before installing XP? Perhaps some sort of fan is no longer active? There's not a dedicated fan control in the BIOS and I've failed thus far coming up with a method to manually control them myself. It really does feel much hotter than before, even when just browsing the web.

Just a few ideas I'm pinging around as to why I'm getting these problems.

» Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:46 pm

Maybe not quite Tech but someone posted a link in a thread about Zero Punctuation which seems to have disappeared off the forums now, and that link was to some site which allowed you to upload an image, and then it would find other instances of the same image on the internet. But now I don't remember the site. Does anyone know what it was?

» Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:28 pm

Maybe not quite Tech but someone posted a link in a thread about Zero Punctuation which seems to have disappeared off the forums now, and that link was to some site which allowed you to upload an image, and then it would find other instances of the same image on the internet. But now I don't remember the site. Does anyone know what it was?

http://www.tineye.com/

» Sun Feb 28, 2010 4:05 am

So, my gaming laptop died it's final death earlier this week and I've been on the lookout for a new computer since. A desktop computer this time, since that laptop gave me nothing but trouble. I think I've found a very good one for a decent price. However, since I don't know that much about computers and am always totally paranoid about buying expensive stuff I've decided to ask some advice here, to check if there isn't a part in it which is absolutely horrible and will blow up my pc within the month.

Here it is: http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/PC-Systemen_Complete_Systemen_Gaming_met_besturingssysteem/ALTERNATE/Saturnus_P010/443437/?.

Summary:
Processor: Intel? Core? i7-860 (2,8 GHz)
Graphics card: ATI Radeon HD5770
RAM: 4096 MB DDR3
Harddisk: 1.500 GB, SATA II / 5400rpm / 32MB / 8,9ms
And a 500 watt power supply.

I have no idea what most of the stuff on that page means, so any input would be greatly appreciated

It's a decent system. An alternative is to use Alternate's PC Builder:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://www.alternate.nl/&ei=BEUwTOqpMYPcnAfFx_TXAw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCQQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dalternate.nl%26hl%3Den

and customize it as follows...

Required Components
CASE (Housing): http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://www.alternate.nl/html/pcbuilder/productDetail.html%3FsearchClass%3Dpccase%26artno%3DTQXA62%26cn%3D1%26tn%3DBUILDERS&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dalternate.nl%26hl%3Den&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhgVYgscQRLqeR0nSmw7FE3025Jh6w
PSU (Nutrition?): http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://www.alternate.nl/&ei=BEUwTOqpMYPcnAfFx_TXAw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCQQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dalternate.nl%26hl%3Den
MEMORY: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://www.alternate.nl/&ei=BEUwTOqpMYPcnAfFx_TXAw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCQQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dalternate.nl%26hl%3Den
PROCESSOR:http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://www.alternate.nl/&ei=BEUwTOqpMYPcnAfFx_TXAw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCQQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dalternate.nl%26hl%3Den
MOTHERBOARD: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://www.alternate.nl/&ei=BEUwTOqpMYPcnAfFx_TXAw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCQQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dalternate.nl%26hl%3Den
GRAPHICS CARD (PCIe): http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://www.alternate.nl/&ei=BEUwTOqpMYPcnAfFx_TXAw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCQQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dalternate.nl%26hl%3Den
HARD DISK (SATA): http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://www.alternate.nl/&ei=BEUwTOqpMYPcnAfFx_TXAw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCQQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dalternate.nl%26hl%3Den
OPTICAL DRIVE (DVD BURNER): http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://www.alternate.nl/&ei=BEUwTOqpMYPcnAfFx_TXAw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCQQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dalternate.nl%26hl%3Den

SOFTWARE
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://www.alternate.nl/&ei=BEUwTOqpMYPcnAfFx_TXAw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCQQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dalternate.nl%26hl%3Den

Assuming you need nothing else, that's about $980 and will max any game out right now.

New thread coming....

» Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:42 pm

New thread:
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1102258-the-community-tech-thread-no-90/

Please close this one.