Anyone know what mod causes this platform in Seyda Neen to g

Post » Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:48 pm

This problem has actually plagued me in the past before, but I could never figure out who the culprit is. I was walking along the platforms that lead to the store in Seyda Neen, and I noticed the one in the corner was missing.

http://i.imgur.com/8J5DD.png

Now, it just recently came back, like a few weeks ago.

Here's my load order.
Active Mods
001 Morrowind.esm
002 Tribunal.esm
003 Bloodmoon.esm
004 Texture Fix 2.0.esm
005 Morrowind Patch v1.6.5-BETA.esm
006 Book Rotate.esm
007 Poorly Placed Object Fix 1.2.esm
008 GDR_MasterFile.esm
009 Morrowind Advanced.esm
010 Better Heads.esm
011 Better Heads Tribunal addon.esm
012 Better Heads Bloodmoon addon.esm
013 Rise of House Telvanni.esm
014 TR_Data.esm
015 TR_Mainland.esm
016 H.E.L.L.U.V.A._Merchant_Containers.esm
017 3S Mannequin.esp
018 100ProjectileStoreChance.esp
019 TargetSpellSpeedMod.esp
020 Area Effect Projectiles (PAR Edit).esp
021 Clean drow_crossbow_set.esp
022 Passive_Healthy_Wildlife.esp
023 Clean jet_gold_armor.esp
024 Clean Kynareth.esp
025 Dragonscale Armor v2.esp
026 Clean Arkay.esp
027 Hold it - replacer.esp
028 Lgnpc_SN.esp
029 LGNPC_GnaarMok_v1_20.esp
030 LGNPC_AldVelothi_v1_20.esp
031 LGNPC_MaarGan_v1_20.esp
032 Divine_domina_part_1.esp
033 Divine_domina_part_2.esp
034 Divine_domina_part_3_Tribunal.esp
035 LGNPC_HlaOad_v1_32.esp
036 Unique Tombs.esp
037 AmethystArmourWeapons.esp
038 LGNPC_Aldruhn_v1_20.esp
039 The Inquisition.esp
040 LGNPC_Aldruhn_v1_21_suppl.esp
041 LeftGloves.esp
042 Divine_domina_part_4.esp
043 LGNPC_Pelagiad_v1_31.esp
044 LGNPC_TelMora_v1_30.esp
045 MW_Adv_PHW.esp
046 LGNPC_Khuul_v2_21.esp
047 LGNPC_VivecFQ_v2_20.esp
048 Less_Generic_Nerevarine.esp
049 BlackIndorilElite1.7.esp
050 Nasty Camonna Tong.esp
051 Drowcity Denizens.esp
052 Ancient Bronze Armor.esp
053 JojjosFrostmourneForMorrowind.esp
054 Tsaesci Dragonscale Armour.esp
055 LichKingPauldronsHelmet.esp
056 New Argonian Bodies - Mature.esp
057 Dragonscale.esp
058 InterventionPlus.esp
059 Morrowind Crafting Equipment.esp
060 Daedric Crossbow.esp
061 Clean Dragon Blade.esp
062 DCD Headpack 1.esp
063 LGNPC_TelUvirith_v1_20.esp
064 VA_Macha.esp
065 BAR_MournholdTeleportationFix.esp
066 BetterBooks_AlchFormfix.esp
067 VA_BlueYmsidril.esp
068 VA_EbonyReplacer.esp
069 VA_MorkelebArmour.esp
070 VA_Ymsidril.esp
071 VA_EmeraldYmsidril.esp
072 VA_ElvishKatana.esp
073 VA_HissyoKatana.esp
074 NG_New_Carnithus'_Armamentarium.esp
075 Bob's Armory.esp
076 ACD_PracticeDummy.esp
077 Master Index Upgrade.esp
078 Syc_BetterBoundBows.esp
079 Daedric Flamberge.esp
080 Infinite Torch.esp
081 VA_ElvishSabres.esp
082 PrivateersHold.esp
083 Acheron's Camping Gear 2.esp
084 KRS_SFG.esp
085 Widow maker crossbow.esp
086 EW_Glass_Shortsword.esp
087 VA_VagabondSilverSwords.esp
088 Prostitution_v12EV.esp
089 Clean PJM Themed bowsets.esp
090 MW_Adv_Required (BTB Edit).esp
091 Nethaupaul.esp
092 BlightedAnimalsRetextured.esp
093 New Khajiit Bodies - Mature.esp
094 Bob's Armory 2.esp
095 Elvenwear.esp
096 Bob's Banners.esp
097 LGNPC_IndarysManor_v1_51.esp
098 MoragTongWritFix.esp
099 Less_Generic_Bloodmoon.esp
100 Djangos Dialogue.ESP
101 Clean Akatosh.esp
102 Silarias_SpiderSword.esp
103 Clean Dibella.esp
104 AscendedSleeperSFX.esp
105 blackheartarmor.esp
106 T&I_TWF.esp
107 BTB - Alchemy.esp
108 Loincloth_top_ pkg2.esp
109 The Neverhalls.esp
110 bcsounds.esp
111 AtmosphericSoundEffects.esp
112 AtmosphericSoundEffects-3.0-Tribunal.esp
113 Healers.esp
114 Balconyhouse.esp
115 Beds4Rent.esp
116 Carry your Bedroll.esp
117 LGNPC_VivecRedoran_v1_61.esp
118 LGNPC_PaxRedoran_v1_20.esp
119 Romance_v37EV.esp
120 Deus Ex Machina - A Steampunkyish Mod.ESP
121 Romance_Follow_v10EV.esp
122 Antares' Big Mod 5.3.esp
123 Vivec Signposts.esp
124 Mannequins for Sale.esp
125 Barabus' fireplaces 2.esp
126 Daedric Broadsword.esp
127 Persuasion Response Expansion.esp
128 mel_teleportPlugin_1_3.esp
129 sm_ForgottenHalls.esp
130 DN-GDRv1 (BTB Edit).esp
131 Clean Icxth, Morrowind Edition.esp
132 Creatures.esp
133 Crusaders_of_Tamriel.esp
134 Quieter_UI_Sounds.esp
135 mel_teleportPlugin_1_3_Patches.esp
136 Psy_VGR_Armour.esp
137 DreadKnight.ESP
138 Animated Morrowind II.esp
139 k_weather (louder sounds).esp
140 Complete Armor Joints.esp
141 IndorilSpear.ESP
142 New Lord's Mail.ESP
143 animchest.esp
144 Dwemer Guardian.esp
145 Glass Weapons For Ninjas.ESP
146 DDD_Add_On_By_Westly.esp
147 Less_Generic_Tribunal.esp
148 almalexia armor.esp
149 More Quick-Keys.esp
150 BT_Whitewolf_2_0.esp
151 Lich King.esp
152 DX_Thedungeon.esp
153 Sotonhorian.ESP
154 Better Bodies.esp
155 Holy King Armor.esp
156 TIDR - Red Lights TR.ESP
157 Ice_RubyKnightsArmor.esp
158 Royal Golden Armor v3.1.esp
159 I wished I had a Hobbit hole! v-2.2.esp
160 Better Skulls.ESP
161 Golden Saint Armor.esp
162 OR_Fang.esp
163 NX9_Guards_Complete.ESP
164 OR_ForkH.esp
165 entertainers.esp
166 Animated Morrowind 1.0.esp
167 P.R.E. v4.0.esp
168 master_index.esp
169 The Imperial Legion Badge.esp
170 LeFemmArmor.esp
171 Clean Atmospheric Balmora.ESP
172 Nudity Greeting Expansion V1.esp
173 NX9_Guard_LGTrib_patch.ESP
174 NX9_Guard_LGRedoran_Patch.ESP
175 adamantiumarmor.esp
176 EBQ_Artifact.esp
177 Siege at Firemoth.esp
178 DXM_masterindex_journalfix.esp
179 Book Rotate - Tribunal v5.3.esp
180 ExcellentMagicSounds.esp
181 Book Rotate - Bloodmoon v5.3.esp
182 Akavirian Armor V 1.0.esp
183 A_flock_of_seagulls.esp
184 Arrow De-nocker.esp
185 Oriental weapons pack.esp
186 Mf_torch_toggle.esp
187 HospitalityPapers.esp
188 dxm_metallic_signs.esp
189 GnisisEggminePass.esp
190 DremoraLords.esp
191 Quick Char (Timescale Edit).esp
192 EcoAdjCrime (Tresspass Edit).esp
193 EcoAdjMerchantSkills (Disposition Edit).esp
194 TIDR - Red Lights MW.ESP
195 TIDR - Toxic Waste.ESP
196 HerTamedLightning.esp
197 tong.ESP
198 Gem Drainer(simple).ESP
199 HELLUVA Balanced Complete.ESP
200 HELLUVA Balanced TR Addon.ESP
201 Twin Blades of Azzinoth.esp
202 OR_SpiritEat.esp
203 Sleepers, Awake!.esp
204 k_in_tent.esp
205 Morrowind Crafting 2-1.esp
206 sm_Bracersobs.ESP
207 Welcome to the Arena! v5.5.esp
208 Atronach Expansion X.ESP
209 Better Clothes Complete (BTB Edit).esp
210 Mudcrab Island TLAD.esp
211 True_Lights_And_Darkness_1.0-NoDaylight.esp
212 yalsm.esp
213 Undead arise from death 3.5.esp
214 TAE - apparatus retexture.esp
215 TAE - ingredient trader.esp
216 BTB - Equipment.esp
217 K_Potion_Upgrade_1.2.esp
218 Illy's Oh my Goddess.ESP
219 UAR_EbonyHelms_v2.esp
220 Dagoth Ur Fix.esp
221 MW Containers Animated.esp
222 Arrow_Fix_Chu.esp
223 Wolf Pack.esp
224 BoundWeaponReplacer.ESP
225 TAE - essence potions.esp
226 The [censored].esp
227 TAE - TR essences and effects.esp
228 Tealpanda's Alchemy Essentials.esp
229 HELLUVA Balanced Creatures Addon.esp
230 Fair Magicka Regen (one Percent).esp
231 ring_teleport v3_Tealpanda.esp
232 DM_DB Armor Replacer-ExpDDBA (BTB Edit).esp
233 AltShieldsRemover.ESP
234 md_Forge of Hilbongard.ESP
235 Raven`s Armor.esp
236 IceNioLivRobeReplacerPLUS (BTB Edit).esp
237 md_AnCr_integration.ESP
238 TR_Recall+_0.3.2.esp
239 Mighty Umbra.esp
240 Anteres' Creatures Complete.ESP
241 Missing Armor Complete.ESP
242 Syc_HerbalismforPurists (Pearl Bug Edit).esp
243 Syc_AtHomeAlchemy.esp
244 Syc_HerbalismforPurists_BM.esp
245 Syc_HerbalismforPurists_TB.esp
246 Mashed Lists.esp
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Natalie J Webster
 
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Post » Sat Sep 29, 2012 8:27 am

Try indoril spear. I think there were some type of issue with it.
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Fiori Pra
 
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Post » Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:00 pm

Try indoril spear. I think there were some type of issue with it.

Yeah, indoril spear doesn't even work. None of the Indoril guards carry them, and I tried giving them the indoril spear through the construction set, but I couldn't drag it for some reason.

I'll try it.
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Danel
 
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Post » Sat Sep 29, 2012 4:41 am

Whoa! Disabling Indoril Spears fixed it! I didn't think I would get a solution for this problem, to tell you the truth.

Anyone know why Indoril Spears would cause this problem in the first place?
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FLYBOYLEAK
 
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Post » Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:07 am

Dirty reference in the file. Do you know how to fix those?

edit: I don't like ending in a question like that: You can fix a dirty reference using the http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=other.detail&id=52 or by flagging the reference to "ignore" it in the CS (someone correct me if this method doesn't actually work).
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Angel Torres
 
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Post » Sat Sep 29, 2012 8:11 am

Anyone know why Indoril Spears would cause this problem in the first place?
Sloppy modding :P

You can erase the reference with Enchanted Editor, or flag it as Ignored in the CS.
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Liii BLATES
 
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Post » Sat Sep 29, 2012 4:31 am

You guys mean like gmsts? I thought I used tes3cmd to fix it.
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Isabell Hoffmann
 
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Post » Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:15 am

I guess tes3cmd missed indoril spear when I used it to clean all my mods. :P I just manually cleaned it with tes3cmd, and it removed a bunch of stuff from there, but the platform still goes missing. And I only checked the clean version of indoril spear.
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Erin S
 
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Post » Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:40 pm

GMSTs are different than dirty references. When the author of that mod made it, they moved, or in some way edited that platform (in this case it looks like they deleted it) - that change was included in the mod. To remove it, you have to manually go and delete (or ignore) that reference.

GMSTs are basically a dirty reference that is automatically included if you have TR and/or BM installed and try to make a mod which is only dependent on MW.
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TIhIsmc L Griot
 
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Post » Sat Sep 29, 2012 12:36 am

I'm so confused... so can tes3cmd remove dirty references then?


EDIT: Oh, I guess I didn't read the read me on the site for tes3cmd thoroughly. I only rid my mods of gmsts.
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Post » Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:30 pm

I'm not familiar enough with tes3cmd to know what it's capable of. There is no simple script to remove dirty references, that I know of. It has to be done manually, so you have to know what you're looking for.

If you have the CS open, go to open a file, select the indoril spear mod, click details: it'll pop up a list of all references included in the mod - I assume there shouldn't be too many for that mod.

Sort by ID (by clicking at the top). Now you're going to be looking for something named ex_de_dock_01 (or something similar I think - this is off the top of my head). Select that entry and hit Delete. The entry will now have an "I" next to it, and that reference will be ignored.

Hope this helps a bit - if you'd rather use Enchanted Editor, it's pretty easy in there too. I just prefer using the CS to keep the multiplicity of programs I have to use to a minimum.
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