OK, I've grown tired of some of the wrong things on the Wiki, people quoting elements as canon, real-world locations corresponding to in-game locations, etc, etc....so I join the site, since I have some free time lately, and start making some edits, adding references & sources, using perfect grammar, adding 'behind the scenes' for certain pages....only to find out all the edits I made, 75% of them, got removed because who ever was the admin. for that page...didn't like it....WTF is this?! The site needs so much work, but if Admins. do that, it will never change...

Just a little rant...Anyone else experience this if they joined the Wiki?

Well what exactly are you having a problem with??

Well, I started out going through Fallout Tactics, adding in real-world references to the in-game locations. I started there since those pages, out of all the other Fallout pages, are missing their real-world locations in 'Behind The Scenes,' some of them have their real-world cities added in, some don't. The Admins. of that page seem they "lack importance"(as per the reason of the revert), but for consistency-sake, they should be treated the same as the other Fallout Location pages....right? I only did this for cities that are based off real-world cities, but were missing from the page, or I just added the wiki-link for that city in the headline as some were missing only that.

Fixing some grammar on various other pages, they got reverted, some of them, because and I quote "It was perfectly fine the other way, missing commas or quotations or changing its to it's isn't worthy of an edit, unless there's something in dire need to fix or add, please don't make edits to these pages."

Why can they pick and chose....it's like they want what they want on there, and not certain facts.

I noticed that the wiki considers the "East Coast got the worst" canon. Why is that? Does one of those stupid game guides establish it as canon or what?

Bethesda, well Todd Howard, said that in a pre-release interview about Fallout 3. There should be a reference on that page....but there isn't, hence one of the reasons I joined the Wiki...but if anything I edit gets reversed...whats the point.

Wow seriously? And here I thought those Wiki admins would be glad to have a helping hand! I guess someone got a huge ego and takes your edits way too personal? o.0 Experiences like that turn me away from joining any wiki projects.

Yea man, this is a big let down, almost makes me want to say screw it...Admins or the people that have been there forever probably think they know more about Fallout than anyone for some reason....there is so much that is missing from there, my first edit I did, I forgot to add a reference and it got erased because the Admin. said "in order to keep our articles to a high standard and accurate, that sort of information requires a reference." I added my reference and that edit stuck, but there is so much on the Wiki without any kind of reference that's still on there....I really don't understand this.

Did you source it? On the page or to the admin/moderators of the wikia?

Of course.

It's their world and they don't like people messing with it. They often put none canon info as part of faction main pages. They feel the Fallout Bible is 100% Canon even though it's horribly out of date.

I also think some of them started Fallout with Fallout 3, so that would explain why they feel DC got it worse. I remember once that they refused to admit that ICMBs existed in the Fallout Universe. Even thow Fallout 3 has ICMBs in it, and Fallout 2 says they were used.

I read your edits, and I see you have contacted admins who I am sure will contact you in due course.

However your edits didn't really add anything to the articles. You to my mind speculate as to the "Exact" location of a town (down to a few miles) based on the map, when I don't think the in game map offers that much detail to be able to say that. In any case, they really didn't add anything to the articles.... The only location where I think its notable to discuss its real world location is Necropolis (f1), because its very wrong, due to a last minute change in location (Barstow vs Bakersfield).

But ultimately, saying that locaion X is Y miles from Chicago doesn't really add to the article in any way, I'd go as far as to say for game purposes its completely irrelevant.

When references are required really depends on the situation. Its its immediate and obvious in game, then no, but if you're posting something obscure, then you need em.

If you need help getting used to the wiki's quirks, sign up to the New User Network, you'll finda link in your welcome message. We'll tie you with one of those old "admins who have been there forever" or someone else of similar edit quality, and help you get used to things.

As for the wiki and ICMBs. Looks like they finally admited they exist ==&--#62; http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/ICBM

But they forgot to add that President Richardson talks about the Reds Launching in Fallout 2 and America almost didn't get their birds in the air. Also there is no mention of "spears of nuclear fire" as talked about in the Intro. All of which are taking about ICBMs.

Then you can go to Fallout Tactics which has a nuclear war head for an ICBM. Then there is Fallout intro that tells us the Great War only lasted two hours which means ICBMs.

It wasn't just that, but towns like Osceolla is Osceola, MO but the page doesn't say that; The Nursery on the VB pre-release map isn't near the real-world Black Canyon Nursey, but the page doesn't list that conflict, along with Mesa Verde & Maxsons Bunker. It's unknown which would have been canon if VB was complete, the map or the design documents....probably the map.
I just thought it would be good to inform that some of the locations, in-game, don't correspond to their exact real-world counter-parts. Like Newton for example, it's no-where near the real-city of Newton, KS, but it's location on a map corresponds to the town of Norton, KS, which bares a resemblance in name as well..

I'll refrain from adding to this then and start working on certain unlisted canon elements then.
Thanks a bunch Agent