Artstyle and world: Retro or Modern?

Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:52 pm

I've been discussing with some of my friends in regards to the Fallout world, one of the many topics we touched upon was the world itself. I for one think the 1950's vibe adds to the uniqueness of the Fallout universe and sets it apart from so much other games. However I've always wondered how the feeling would change if a more modernized approach were to be taken, not necessarily 21st century cliche but something more around the 1970s-1990s. Now I apologize as I am not as familiar with Fallout lore as much as I am with Elder Scrolls lore but I find it kind of weird that a world that was destroyed in ~2076 would still look like the 50's. Of course I'm not suggesting that Bethesda or Obsidian should change the world... but you could perhaps make Lanius look less goofy.
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:21 am

Fallout is a parallel universe, not this one.

Lanius, looks goofy ???
Look at your avatar! LOL
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:49 pm

Fallout is a parallel universe, not this one.

Lanius, looks goofy ???
Look at your avatar! LOL

Fallout is a parallel universe that derives from this one so I was just suggesting what it would be like if the Developers integrated some of it and yes Lanius does look goofy for a person who is suppose to be menacing and ruthless as with the entire legion itself. That is why I can't take them and their sadistic doctrines seriously.

At least my avatar isn't nicknamed "Deepthroat" who gets humiliated and killed by a hulking piece of metal garbage LMFAO! :rofl:
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:30 am

Not sure if troll or serious.
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:52 pm

Not sure if troll or serious.

Not sure who or what you are talking about. If me then yes I'm serious as can be.
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:46 pm

What is your avatar ?
GENERIC, that is what it is.

The suit my avatar is wearing is in FNV.

That nickname has become synonymous with spies or informants.


OT: You are trying to change the subject now...
"Fallout is a parallel universe that derives from this one so I was just suggesting what it would be like if the Developers integrated some of it"...

No, you mentioned about the 50's era and the fact that in the FO universe it was 2072 when the bombs fell...
Just because here it was 1950 that has no barring on it being 2072 in the Fallout universe. Simple.

You dare say Lanius looks goofy, when your avatar looks like that. What a fkn joke!

I know your type.

Be seeing you!
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:54 am

What is your avatar ?
GENERIC, that is what it is.

The suit my avatar is wearing is in FNV.

That nickname has become synonymous with spies or informants.


OT: You are trying to change the subject now...
"Fallout is a parallel universe that derives from this one so I was just suggesting what it would be like if the Developers integrated some of it"...

No, you mentioned about the 50's era and the fact that in the FO universe it was 2072 when the bombs fell...
Just because here it was 1950 that has no barring on it being 2072 in the Fallout universe. Simple.

You dare say Lanius looks goofy, when your avatar looks like that. What a fkn joke!

I know your type.

Be seeing you!

I don't see what is so hard to understand about the parallel universe thing. The Fallout world is very much like our own, but significant differences exist, especially after WWII. The 1950's of the Fallout universe aren't ever actually described. The culture and technology developed at a different pace. It seems that the technology advanced a lot faster than the culture. It's really not a difficult concept to grasp.
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:29 pm

What is your avatar ?
GENERIC, that is what it is.

The suit my avatar is wearing is in FNV.

That nickname has become synonymous with spies or informants.


OT: You are trying to change the subject now...
"Fallout is a parallel universe that derives from this one so I was just suggesting what it would be like if the Developers integrated some of it"...

No, you mentioned about the 50's era and the fact that in the FO universe it was 2072 when the bombs fell...
Just because here it was 1950 that has no barring on it being 2072 in the Fallout universe. Simple.

You dare say Lanius looks goofy, when your avatar looks like that. What a fkn joke!

I know your type.

Be seeing you!

There is a difference between being "generic" and goofy, the former being worse and I swear your avatar is the Gray Fox from Metal Gear Solid a incompetent fighter who is all flash but no fury compared to others like Raiden or Solidus. So unless you somehow mod a Metal Gear Costume into your game, I'm not sure where you found his suit. Ohh and if your definition of a Spy is someone like Mark Felt who screws around with domestic political scandals rather than do something more constructive then I'm not surprised.

No I am not changing the subject, I know it's 2076 when the great war ended and the bombs fell. All I said was that it is sort of weird that they stuck with the 1950's vibe(which Bethesda even stated themselves). Also the timeline in the fallout world is the same as our world up to 1950. Events such as the founding of the constitution of the US, the American Civil War, World War I and II happen in the same time as ours as seen from evidence in the games. It's only after the 1950's I assume when thing's start to differ. Again if you actually read my intro you would know that I'm not that familiar with Fallout lore, but I guess it too hard for people like you to do such a simple thing.

Yes Lanius is a goof, I relished in shooting down his wannabe team of football players and hippies with my NCR ranger and blowing him to shreds.

If you wanna insult Dovahkiin, why don't you go to High Hrothgar and say it in his face. Good luck getting past the troll first.

I know your type too, easy to irritate, prone to anger,quick to lash out at others and very vulnerable to a speech skill of 100 :devil:

Be seeing you too profligate!
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:09 pm

Dude, have you played Fallout 3, or at least read the manual? It says plain as day that the Fallout world is a parallel universe whose timeline split from ours after WW2 and stayed in the days of beehive hairdos and robotic butlers.

I'm sorry, but even by looking at the cars you can clearly tell that the pre war culture was in the style of the "1950's day of tomorrow" style. Actually, anything in that game that is mechanical will give it away. Just look at protectetrons. Would any designer today make a robot that looks like that? NO. Designers today would make a servant robot that looks like megatron, and don't act like you don't know it. It's been this way since Fallout 1, and if the art style changed I wouldn't even consider it Fallout anymore.

It's a huge game element.

I might even start defending Lanius if this goes on, and I'm a friggin' Desert Ranger.
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:30 am

Dude, have you played Fallout 3, or at least read the manual? It says plain as day that the Fallout world is a parallel universe whose timeline split from ours after WW2 and stayed in the days of beehive hairdos and robotic butlers.

STEAM!!!

I don't usually read manuals as I tried to avoid even the littlest spoilers.
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:41 am

STEAM!!!
Nonetheless, every element in the environment is still a dead giveaway. The manual was pretty much just making sure you knew what you were getting into lol
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:20 am

There is a difference between being "generic" and goofy, the former latter being worse and I swear your avatar is the Gray Fox from Metal Gear Solid a incompetent fighter who is all flash but no fury compared to others like Raiden or Solidus. So unless you somehow mod a Metal Gear Costume into your game, I'm not sure where you found his suit.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Chinese_stealth_armor_(Fallout:_New_Vegas)

Obviously this is the same concept as the suit paraded in MGS.
The avatar I currently have is one of many, I can change it right now if I wish. You are stuck with yours because it is liked to your handle...

Your avatar looks goofy AND generic.

Ohh and if your definition of a Spy is someone like Mark Felt who screws around with domestic political scandals rather than do something more constructive then I'm not surprised.

Call me 'Deep Throat" if you like, it is appropriate considering I choke thankful [censored]es. Something you could only dream of with your comically stubby pecker!

No I am not changing the subject, [you tried to] I know it's 2076 when the great war ended and the bombs fell. All I said was that it is sort of weird that they stuck with the 1950's vibe(which Bethesda even stated themselves). Also the timeline in the fallout world is the same as our world up to 1950. Events such as the founding of the constitution of the US, the American Civil War, World War I and II happen in the same time as ours as seen from evidence in the games. It's only after the 1950's I assume when thing's start to differ.

Is it so hard for you to conceive a time and place that is wholly similar to this one but that differs only in minor details..?

Yes Lanius is a goof, I relished in shooting down his wannabe team of football players and hippies with my NCR ranger and blowing him to shreds.

Oh.. Now I understand your obsession with fallacio .

If you wanna insult Dovahkiin, why don't you go to High Hrothgar and say it in his face. [because Skyrim is SH!T and there is a wannabe right here] Good luck getting past the troll first. [Good Luck, is my middle name!]

I know your type too, easy to irritate [I was already irritated by your type before you came out from under your bridge], prone to anger,quick to lash out at others and very vulnerable to a speech skill of 100 :devil: [wrong]

Be seeing you too profligate!
[Do you even know the meaning of the word... I suspect if you did and if you actually knew me you would retract such a stupid and inaccurate attempted insult, immediately. WTVR - it doesn't matter to me what you think. I know who I am]
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:39 am

Nonetheless, every element in the environment is still a dead giveaway. The manual was pretty much just making sure you knew what you were getting into lol

Like I stated many times before, I'm not too familiar with Fallout lore, I just know that the world didn't change much after 1950 and like you mentioned all those robots and gadgets were a 1950 envision of the future as evident in the fallout 3 future. My OP statement suggested what would happen if they decided to ditch that.
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:52 am

Like I stated many times before, I'm not too familiar with Fallout lore, I just know that the world didn't change much after 1950 and like you mentioned all those robots and gadgets were a 1950 envision of the future as evident in the fallout 3 future. My OP statement suggested what would happen if they decided to ditch that.
If it happened a lot of the fans wouldn't buy the game. Hey, if you want a modern apocalyptic game, I can point you in the right direction however. Check out Metro 2033 or the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. series.
The 1950's mojo is not going to ever leave the Fallout series. Too much of the lore already circulates on it, so there you have it.
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:18 pm

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Chinese_stealth_armor_(Fallout:_New_Vegas)

Obviously this is the same concept as the suit paraded in MGS.
The avatar I currently have is one of many, I can change it right now if I wish. You are stuck with yours because it is liked to your handle...


Your avatar looks goofy AND generic.

Well that page is gone... at least try to get a actual page that works. Crimson Dragoons also look nothing like your avatar.

Call me 'Deep Throat" if you like, it is appropriate considering I choke thankful [censored]es. Something you could only dream of with your comically stubby pecker!

Wow tough guy, throwing around insults like that around the internet at strangers does not add any inches to your pecker either, all it does is add to your insecurity.

Is it so hard for you to conceive a time and place that is wholly similar to this one but that differs only in minor details..?

Apparently you've haven't been taught to read introduction statements. I've stated so much times I even praise Bethesda and Obsidian for maintaining a setting that is wholly unique. All I suggested is what would have happened if they've tried to change the time period a little, which I don't want either.

Oh.. Now I understand your obsession with fallacio.

Please see a psychiatrist...you've got some issues.

[because Skyrim is SH!T and there is a wannabe right here]

Maybe in your opinon and he is no wannabe

[I was already irritated by your type before you came out from under your bridge] [wrong]

I'm not the one hurling insults like a child. Apparently you lack any sense to see that I was only being saracastic

Do you even know the meaning of the word... I suspect if you did and if you actually knew me you would retract such a stupid and inaccurate attempted insult, immediately. WTVR - it doesn't matter to me what you think. I know who I am]

Yes I do and having played the game you should know I was only being sarcastic with that remark. Why do I care about knowing a random person on the internet and what would you do if I didn't retract it. What are you a 7 year old who think's the world revolves around him?
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:57 pm

1950 was the nuclear era. It makes perfect sense to have that be stylised in Fallout.

Using any other era isn't going to resonate anywhere close as well as the 50's US. It is not just that it is there and now must be kept... it really is the best time period to integrate.

Change one variable in the Fallout development process from the start and the outcome would be vastly different. A parallel universe itself - it may never have been called 'Fallout', it might never have had been set it the US, etc... all pointless speculation. We have Fallout as it is, accept it and embrace it.
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:32 pm

1950 was the nuclear era. It makes perfect sense to have that be stylised in Fallout.

Using any other era isn't going to resonate anywhere close as well as the 50's US. It is not just that it is there and now must be kept... it really is the best time period to integrate.

Change one variable in the Fallout development process from the start and the outcome would be vastly different. A parallel universe itself - it may never have been called 'Fallout', it might never have had been set it the US, etc... all pointless speculation. We have Fallout as it is, accept it and embrace it.

Thank you for such a polite and reasonable answer!!!

I've embraced the Fallout universe for what it is. It's my stupid friends who suggested that the developers should make modernize Fallout which is why I even made this post in the first place.
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:15 am

I suggest you play Fallout, Fallout 2, Fallout Tactics.

Fallout isn't based on our timeline as others have mentioned. The 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, and so on would have been very different then ours. So it wouldn't make a damn bit of sense for the devs to start putting things from those decades in Fallout. Sure some weapons show up from those decades, but to have music and other cultural elements showing up in Fallout wouldn't make sense.

It is a very bad idea. I know for a fact it is a very bad idea. How do I know that? Because of FO:PoS aka The Burned Game. It was created by the new owners of interplay. They thought it would be a good idea to have death metal and other music from bands such as Slipknot and Slayer.
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:33 am

If it happened a lot of the fans wouldn't buy the game. Hey, if you want a modern apocalyptic game, I can point you in the right direction however. Check out Metro 2033 or the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. series.
The 1950's mojo is not going to ever leave the Fallout series. Too much of the lore already circulates on it, so there you have it.

Both great games, I've heard that Bethesda Softworks bought that STALKER franchise several months ago.
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:45 pm

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Chinese_stealth_armor_(Fallout:_New_Vegas)

Obviously this is the same concept as the suit paraded in MGS.
The avatar I currently have is one of many, I can change it right now if I wish. You are stuck with yours because it is liked to your handle...

Your avatar looks goofy AND generic.

Well that page is gone... at least try to get a actual page that works. Crimson Dragoons also looks nothing like your avatar.

That's weird - I was just at that page to link it and now it's gone! Yes, it is the same suit, just a slightly different design.

Call me 'Deep Throat" if you like, it is appropriate considering I choke thankful [censored]es. Something you could only dream of with your comically stubby pecker!

Wow tough guy, throwing around insults like that around the internet at strangers does not add any inches to your pecker either, all it does is add to your insecurity.

Oh, I am sorry, did I strike a nerve?? Why take it so seriously if I can't possibly know you.. LOL It was a joke. But now you just admitted you have a miniture [censored] LOL

Is it so hard for you to conceive a time and place that is wholly similar to this one but that differs only in minor details..?

Apparently you've haven't been taught to read introduction statements. I've stated so much times I even praise Bethesda and Obsidian for maintaining a setting that is wholly unique. All I suggested is what would have happened if they've tried to change the time period a little, which I don't want either

You keep trying to revert back to that in an attempt to change the subject.

You said, "I find it kind of weird that a world that was destroyed in ~2076 would still look like the 50's"...
So, as we can see it is not 'all you suggested' to say what if it was 70's-90's themed....


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[because Skyrim is SH!T and there is a wannabe right here]

Maybe in your opinon and he is no wannabe

LOL

[I was already irritated by your type before you came out from under your bridge] [wrong]

I'm not the one hurling insults like a child. Apparently you lack any sense to see that I was only being saracastic &--#60;&--#60;&--#60; LOL Ya, nice try - there you are displaying 'your type' again ...

Do you even know the meaning of the word... I suspect if you did and if you actually knew me you would retract such a stupid and inaccurate attempted insult, immediately. WTVR - it doesn't matter to me what you think. I know who I am]

Yes I do and having played the game you should know I was only being sarcastic with that remark. [made no sense to me as sarcasm and I am English] Why do I care about knowing a random person on the internet [because you said you know my type... now your saying you don't!] and what would you do if I didn't retract it.[tell you you're wrong?? say whatever you like, it's okay I can handle it :smile:] What are you a 7 year old who think's the world revolves around him?[I am a 27 year old that knows the universe revolves around him!]
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:22 am

Both great games, I've heard that Bethesda Softworks bought that STALKER franchise several months ago.

They didn't.
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