I want novels

Post » Sat Mar 20, 2010 8:10 am

Fanon =/= Canon.
I want Fallout novels which expand on lore, true lore.
Fanon can be a good read but is in no way important what so ever to the real lore.


As a guy who has been there since the 1st.ed Forgotten Realms I get it. I have plowed through a metric ton of books and manuals and I love "true lore" as it were. But. Sometimes fanfic can be equally entertaining and certainly more entertaining than reading through a faeces load of lore and then have it all thrown back in your face (As Lucas has made a habit of doing).

Fanfic also has (Sometimes) people who are as inventive or more so than quite afew books written by peons or even household name writers. For instance, whilst R.A. Salvatore was good in his day, most of what he has written lately, I find absolutely horrid, rehashing old sentiments over and over. The intial starbursts of ingenuity and originality are gone. The glow of the words has faded to embers that can barely spark my interest.

The kiss of death for me was 4th ed. The pen and paper days have been burnt on the alter of wow-mediocracy and the masses now pray to the golden calf of plagerism in the name of the allmighty buck.
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Post » Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:55 am

-I am in the process of reading my way through them all to get an Idea of where I would fit in. You have been noticed. :)


Thanks. I hope you meant that in a good way. :tongue:

Fanon =/= Canon.
I want Fallout novels which expand on lore, true lore.
Fanon can be a good read but is in no way important what so ever to the real lore.


True, "fanon" is not cannon, but unless it directly contradicts cannon, what's the difference? A good read is a good read, and if its set in a setting you already enjoy it should be even better.

Cannon is really just the developer's "fanon" anyway. . .there is no fallout "bible". . .wait, there actually is. . .well, I still maintain it doesn't really matter. Its an imaginary world, so why not read other people's creative / alternative iterations of it until Bethesda publishes "Fallout: The Novel." You may find one you really like.
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Post » Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:00 am

Thanks. I hope you meant that in a good way. :tongue:


-I can be a nuclear holocaust of snide sarcasm when I want to. This was not one of those times :)
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Post » Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:31 am

True, "fanon" is not cannon, but unless it directly contradicts cannon, what's the difference? A good read is a good read, and if its set in a setting you already enjoy it should be even better. .

"Fanon can be a good read but is in no way important what so ever to the real lore." ;)
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Post » Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:57 am

Fanon =/= Canon.
I want Fallout novels which expand on lore, true lore.
Fanon can be a good read but is in no way important what so ever to the real lore.


What part of lore do you want expanded? If its anything pre-war? I would not like it, "The details are trivial and pointless, the reason as always purely human ones." If they made a novel insted of say making Fallout Tactics II it would svck because I would rather play the game then read the book.
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Post » Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:08 pm

What part of lore do you want expanded? If its anything pre-war? I would not like it, "The details are trivial and pointless, the reason as always purely human ones." If they made a novel insted of say making Fallout Tactics II it would svck because I would rather play the game then read the book.

With an ongoing comic book series lore could be expanded on in several ways, maybe show how Caesar started the Legion?
Maybe how Vegas used to look like before House came out, while expanding on the lore it would progress it's own story during the meantime.
Nothing that would end up with plotholes though.

I dunno I just think that by releasing a chapter or seven they could give use more lore on several things.
Like for example, Enclave, there aren't a lot of things that show us in FO3 that they are very... Human... So what about a couple of chapters of an Enclave unit prior to Fallout 3 which are out on a search and retrieve mission?
It could have some flashbacks on the protagonist, showing us his friends, his family, his children perhaps?
And show us that these people are also humans, not just clones of evil.
And when the unit dies from something we might actually feel sad about them dying instead of thinking "Well they're Enclave, they're evil, so what.."

One chapter could be like a small documentary of how Megaton actually got started.

Maybe a chapter about James from FO3?
To show how they actually got Project Purity started. (For example, where the hell did those tubes come from?)

Maybe one to show what happened to Jacob?
(It's something that's always irked me..)

There are tons of possibilities to be made with a comic book.

So what part of lore do I want expanded? Everything. :)
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Post » Sat Mar 20, 2010 9:52 am

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All good points and I would be interested in comics based on stories of what Vegas was like before Mr.House or maybe one based on the BoS under lyons moving East. One about the first battle of Hoover Dam would be great. I just don't want big novels coving the times before the war or done so they don't have to make a game.
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Post » Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:57 am

Fallout novels would be amazing, as long as they are well-written.
It's such an amazing setting that I've fallen completely in love with it, and would greatly enjoy a well-done Fallout novel. It'd be absolutely imperative that it still captures the 50s World of Tomorrow feel even while remaining post-apocalyptic, however, which could be quite difficult without the visual aids of a game medium.
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Post » Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:34 am

I would like to see novels set in the Fallout Universe, but not part of the Fallout series. I mean, a story with a NCR soldier or a Legion member would be nice, but not tied up with the plot of Fallout: New Vegas. Waiting for the game, I wrote two short stories about a NCR officer and a NCR computer expert who wander around the Mojave Wasteland looking for a pre-war "wonderful treasure" (something like the Sunset Sarsaparilla treasure); unluckily, I wrote the stories in Italian and it's very difficult to translate them. And, anyway, they weren't so nice.

Oh, and I hope that they will made only books based on Fallout, because movies and telefilms based on video games are usually horrible.
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Post » Sat Mar 20, 2010 7:10 am

By Dark Horse Comics or Vertigo please... I want Garth Ennis, Neil Gaymon, Joe Quesada, Frank Miller, and David Gibbons on them stat!
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Post » Sat Mar 20, 2010 6:53 am

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Post » Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:53 am

By Dark Horse Comics or Vertigo please... I want Garth Ennis, Neil Gaymon, Joe Quesada, Frank Miller, and David Gibbons on them stat!


God no, I'm so tired of them, most of their latest works are just more of the same, gets boring in the end.
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Post » Sat Mar 20, 2010 8:19 am

Buffy S8 killed all faith I had in comics, it was traumatizing. I'd vastly prefer a novel.

There's an example where the actual canon turned out considerably worse than a lot of the fanon.
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Post » Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:39 am

Before I comment on IF I want a novel, where is the canon? I've bounced around here a bit and can't seem to find it.
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Post » Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:43 am

I think a Fallout novel could be useful in exploring more into lore of an less important area of the Fallout Lore like Kansas City or another place like that
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Post » Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:58 pm

I agree that Fallout novels would be an excellent thing to have, as long it is, unlike most video game based novels, written well. A novel itself would be an excellent insight into the vast history of the Fallout franchise, making the game more realistic.
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Post » Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:52 pm

Books are important.

They can explain how certain characters got where they were.
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Post » Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:18 am

Possibly, depending on how well they're written, but I'd much rather have comic books. All Roads was cool, so something in that vein would be nice.
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Post » Sat Mar 20, 2010 7:40 am

And strategy games.
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Post » Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:50 pm

I'll never understand this "no, it'll ruin FO" stuff. If you don't like the novels, or T.V. series, or what ever, just don't pay attention to it. It shouldn't bother you. For example, I love the terminator series, but the Idea of a TV series (Sarah conor chronicles) disgusts me (mostly cuz the show was a piece of [censored] that ripped off good lines/parts of T2), so I completely ignored it. To some extent, I forgot that it even existed. Plus, stuff like this never has any bearing on the rest of the series as a whole.
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Post » Sat Mar 20, 2010 8:35 am

I'd really prefer a comic, much more interesting.
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Post » Sat Mar 20, 2010 2:44 am

I'm fine with the Novels as long as its nothing [censored],nor if someone makes it into a Movie but.. (the Book of Eli was good though >.>)
I think they'll be a better comic like how "All Roads" was done, its pretty cool, but a T.V show just no...no then you get these stupid spin offs like Twilight has...and oh god i just dont want to think about it.
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