Why is this game so linear compared to fallout 3?

Post » Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:38 am

First off i love fallout new vegas and fallout 3. My real issue with new vegas is i feel it has less replay value just because of how world is set up. In new vegas you really go where ever you want your forced to go to primm then novac. Going in another derection or exploring will have you killed since the enimies in other derections are much higher lvl its like game is desigened to make you do this path before you can be set free its very bad design compared to fallout 3 you can go in any derection after leaving the fault. Fallout new vegas still great game alot better story and choices and ending with different outcomes. I just think the world of fallout 3 was better designed and fallout new vegas has better story and characters.
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Post » Thu Nov 29, 2012 6:25 am

Speak of the devil. There was a topic about how people complain about New Vegas being linear when it really isn't.

You aren't forced to go South. It's just the safest option for low level players. It is very possible to travel North, you just can't do it guns blazing.

New Vegas is designed like the orginals as in to challenge the player. Not like Fallout 3 where you can just kill anything that moves at level one.

Going south will introduce you to the main factions in the game. Don't think thow it's designed to get to you into the main quest line, it's just to help the player get their bearing. Since Fallout New Vegas it does matter that the character understands the different factions.
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Post » Thu Nov 29, 2012 6:27 pm

My real issue with new vegas is i feel it has less replay value.
Fallout new vegas still great game alot better story and choices and ending with different outcomes.
Wait wut?
It's replay value is in the choices and consequences. :confused:
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Post » Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:04 pm

As a level 1, using sneaking, the mountains, and running while screaming like a little girl, I managed to sneak past the dangerous critters, and make it to Vegas and the Gun Runners, neither of which have anything good in them. Heck, you can't even get into Vegas, only Freeside at that time, and the Gun Runners have d**k all. I think they make it tough for you, so when you come to the areas, you will be strong, ad wealthy enough to buy top teir guns, instead of getting them right away.

Level one, with a fully modified assault rifle? Or an Anti-material rifle? Kill everything easily.
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Post » Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:25 pm

Speak of the devil. There was a topic about how people complain about New Vegas being linear when it really isn't.

You aren't forced to go South. It's just the safest option for low level players. It is very possible to travel North, you just can't do it guns blazing.

New Vegas is designed like the orginals as in to challenge the player. Not like Fallout 3 where you can just kill anything that moves at level one.

Going south will introduce you to the main factions in the game. Don't think thow it's designed to get to you into the main quest line, it's just to help the player get their bearing. Since Fallout New Vegas it does matter that the character understands the different factions.
Speak of the devil. There was a topic about how people complain about New Vegas being linear when it really isn't.

You aren't forced to go South. It's just the safest option for low level players. It is very possible to travel North, you just can't do it guns blazing.

New Vegas is designed like the orginals as in to challenge the player. Not like Fallout 3 where you can just kill anything that moves at level one.

Going south will introduce you to the main factions in the game. Don't think thow it's designed to get to you into the main quest line, it's just to help the player get their bearing. Since Fallout New Vegas it does matter that the character understands the different factions.
Speak of the devil. There was a topic about how people complain about New Vegas being linear when it really isn't.

You aren't forced to go South. It's just the safest option for low level players. It is very possible to travel North, you just can't do it guns blazing.

New Vegas is designed like the orginals as in to challenge the player. Not like Fallout 3 where you can just kill anything that moves at level one.

Going south will introduce you to the main factions in the game. Don't think thow it's designed to get to you into the main quest line, it's just to help the player get their bearing. Since Fallout New Vegas it does matter that the character understands the different factions.
No its not possible at all. Tell me how to kill 6 giant Giant radscorpions with a 9m pistol. Unless of course your using the dlc that stats you off with good weapons.
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Post » Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:31 pm

Wait wut?
It's replay value is in the choices and consequences. :confused:
No since its all in same order it gets old.
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Post » Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:39 am

No its not possible at all. Tell me how to kill 6 giant Giant radscorpions with a 9m pistol. Unless of course your using the dlc that stats you off with good weapons.

You run past them.
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Post » Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:12 am

No its not possible at all. Tell me how to kill 6 giant Giant radscorpions with a 9m pistol. Unless of course your using the dlc that stats you off with good weapons.
You don't. Why should you be able to kill 6 giant scorpions with a dinky little pistol? Think of it like Fallout 2. Pretty difficult throughout the game. But can be made much easier if you beeline to power armor. Difficult beginning, easier towards the end.
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Post » Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:31 am

You run past them.
Then i find more enimies like death claws. Or thoese Cazador which are all over the north.
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Post » Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:45 pm

Wait wut?
It's replay value is in the choices and consequences. :confused:

Skyrim syndrome. Some people equate total freedom to go anywhere anytime (monsters that adjust down to your char lvl no matter where you go) with replay value. Not sure why, I guess it's the people who are only interested in random sandbox exploration and not in a great, interesting storyline with lots of real options and different finishes. I like both a sandbox world and a great story, but it doesn't bother me if the world makes some parts more difficult to traverse than others, in the interest of story. Sandbox is nice, but you can only see each part of the world for the first time once, then it's 'been there, seen that' and loses the new sheen quickly. A great story with lots of branches and options and different ways of playing and finishing, wrapped up in awesome and varied RPG mechanics? Can't get more replayability than that.
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Post » Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:27 pm

Skyrim syndrome. Some people equate total freedom to go anywhere anytime (monsters that adjust down to your char lvl no matter where you go) with replay value. Not sure why, I guess it's the people who are only interested in random sandbox exploration and not in a great, interesting storyline with lots of real options and different finishes. I like both a sandbox world and a great story, but it doesn't bother me if the world makes some parts more difficult to traverse than others, in the interest of story. Sandbox is nice, but you can only see each part of the world for the first time once, then it's 'been there, seen that' and loses the new sheen quickly. A great story with lots of branches and options and different ways of playing and finishing, wrapped up in awesome and varied RPG mechanics? Can't get more replayability than that.
I found that Skyrim had less replayability than FNV. Simply because you can do pretty much everything with one character.
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Post » Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:08 pm

No its not possible at all. Tell me how to kill 6 giant Giant radscorpions with a 9m pistol. Unless of course your using the dlc that stats you off with good weapons.

Wow you quoted me three times and still missed what I said. You can do it. Just don't go in guns blazing. Which means don't attack the creatures. Sneak passed them, run if you have to. It is possible because I have done it. There are even some stealthboys around the starting area of New Vegas which help to get passed the creatures.

I believe the problem is so many TES fans have become used to killing anything they want with the crappiest weapons and at the lowest level. That it blows their minds that they can't do it in New Vegas. They get their hands on a gun and they think they are Rambo.

Seriously what is it with people not wanting to use their brain anymore in a game? It is an RPG. Which means you should talk to people. It means there are other ways to do things besides killing your way through it. It means plan and think ahead and more. Yet it seems most people today are like "I just want to kill without consequence."
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Post » Thu Nov 29, 2012 6:10 pm

Skyrim syndrome. Some people equate total freedom to go anywhere anytime (monsters that adjust down to your char lvl no matter where you go) with replay value. Not sure why, I guess it's the people who are only interested in random sandbox exploration and not in a great, interesting storyline with lots of real options and different finishes. I like both a sandbox world and a great story, but it doesn't bother me if the world makes some parts more difficult to traverse than others, in the interest of story. Sandbox is nice, but you can only see each part of the world for the first time once, then it's 'been there, seen that' and loses the new sheen quickly. A great story with lots of branches and options and different ways of playing and finishing, wrapped up in awesome and varied RPG mechanics? Can't get more replayability than that.
Exactly, I never really understand why people choose to play multiple playthroughs of Fallout 3 back to back; the only real choice you have in that game is in what order to do all of the linear missions. In New Vegas you can do this and choose how you complete said missions. In Fallout 3 you can go almost anywhere without too much fear of dying, in New Vegas you have to work for this freedom.
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Post » Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:46 pm

No since its all in same order it gets old.

So if you did the same stuff again but in a different order it wouldn't get old?
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