Okay so here are 2 threads which mention a few problems with the genius pre-order bonus idea they came up with. And yes I'm being sarcastic.
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1097327-pre-order-and-collectors-edition/
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1097280-new-vegas-preorder-problem/

I think they should just scrap the whole idea of getting different bonuses from different stores, and just give us an option to pick a bonus when we install the game. This is a really horrible idea, was not planned out very well and really screws us for those who want to pay $70.00 for the collectors edition. First off this really limits us who want to the collectors eidtion, so why should the people, like me, get screwed out of a pre-order bonus package I want for getting the collectors edition. I'm paying an extra $20.00 for a game and I don't even get to pick what pre-order bonus I want because some of the stores aren't going to sell the collectors edition? I mean really they did not have in mind the people who want the collectors edition. My request to the marketing, development or whatever department on Bethesda or Obsidian end that came up with this idea is to scrap the idea of different pre-order bonuses base on which store we buy the game from, and just give us an option to pick one when we install the game. Or give us the ability to go on a website and pick a bonus and download the content from there.

I really think this was not planned out very well and for those of us spending good money on the collectors edition are limited to what pre-order bonus we want. I'm not one to complain and I'm huge fan of the Fallout series, but I feel cheated out of the pre-order bonus for wanting the collectors edition. If I'm going to spend an extra 20 bucks on a game I do not want to be limited to 2 pre-order bonus packages! I want to have a choice of all 4!

I'm with Warhead on this. The Collectors editions, that also have the bonuses, are only being sold at Gamestop at Amazon. That limits the bonuses to the Tribal raider, and the Classic packs. I am wanting to get a Caravan or a Mercenary pack, but unfortunately, there are no collectors editions being sold at Best Buy or Walmart, only the regular versions. I realize this may seem petty, but it really isn't fair, for those that are wanting the bonuses for preordering, being limited to two choices, especially if they are the two choices the person didn't really want! I'm speaking for myself here, not for other people.

I would like to have a choice of the four as well! Or at least the opportunity to possibly purchase a Collectors edition someplace where I can get the Caravan or Mercenary bonus with a Collectors Edition purchase. Its obviously not Bethseda's or Osidian's fault that these stores will not supply the Collectors Editions, but its still a bit of an annoyance to not have much of a choice.

I do not plan on getting the collectors edition, so I never though about this problem.

But after reading your posts, I realized that I to agree with rethinking the pre-order issue.

It seems that someone would have though about this before setting it all up.

Maybe the Collectors edition has enough bonuses?

You can get almost all the stuff later in the game, don't flip out over nothing.

Its not really a bonus, we are paying for the poker chips, the casing, the deck of cards and the other stuff that comes with it. Its not fair either way if there is no pre-order bonus, or only being limited to 2 choices of pre-order bonuses for buying the collectors edition. Somebody who doesn't spend the extra money and pre-orders the regular game gets what they want for in-game items but those of us who spend the extra money don't get the in game objects or is limited to 2 choices is really unfair.

@GhostDigga
How do you know that for sure? Things like throwing spears and the binoculars may not be available in the game unless you get the pre-order bonus!

...Except this isn't nothing. This is actually something. You see, the issue here is that there are four different bonuses, each bonus is given with a preorder from a different store. All four of these stores sell the regular edition of New vegas, meanwhile, only two of the stores sell the Collectors Edition. The "flipping out" we are doing is because the Collectors Edition, which we are paying more for, is given less choices of the bonus than the regular edition. We do not want to have to choose from less choices, especially if they are choices we perhaps do not want.

And while one can get more stuff later in the game, and in the long long LONG run of the game, it doesn't matter, but its something given to those that preorder, which I was going to do anyway. But when I'm told there will be four choices, but I'm only allowed to pick out of two of those choices because I'm paying more, then it because a bit of an issue, because, essentially, I'm paying more, for less.

Exactly.

The graphic novel alone worth more than 10 bucks, we're not really paying for the stuff in the CE, and if we are - we're buying the actual game at the price it will go down to months after release.

This is nothing. The pre order bonuses are marginal, you are, in fact, flipping out over nothing. You're overreacting, your response is not proportionate to the situation.

Its not that were angry and flipping out and wanting to go on a murder spree, were just pointing a problem that we notice in regards to ordering the collectors edition. You know this may not be a big deal to you, we are just pointing out a problem with the way they approached pre-orders. I'm not really a person who cares about pre-order bonuses, but the collectors edition is something that kind of requires a person to pre-order because they are limited and may run out fast. Paying extra money for a game and not having the ability to get the same benefits as those who are only getting the regular version is a bit unfair for those of us who are shelling out the money. I work for my money and my parents don't buy me video games, so this is a concern for those of us who notice this problem. I'm actually really calm about this and if anything I would like to approach this in a professional manner. Its not like I'm sitting here saying I HATE YOU OBSIDIAN I REFUSE TO EVER BUY ANOTHER ONE OF YOUR PRODUCTS AGAIN GO BURN IN HELL!!!!! Its more like I'm just stating a problem I, and other people, people have notice and it is wishful thinking that maybe JUST maybe somebody well see our concerns and address it.

If there's nothing going to be done about by the time the game comes out, I'm still going to buy the collectors and I well just have to deal with it. Well I be so unhappy that I'll never want to play another fallout game again? No. All were asking is to have the ability to have a choice in the matter and have the same opportunity that people who didn't buy the collects edition have.

I mean do I not have the right to concern an issue I see as a paying customer? And why is it such a bad idea to request an idea to just have a choice to pick a pre-order package during install instead of being forced to pick a store to buy from that may not have what I want like the collectors edition? You know how many threads I see on here that people make for a request for something to be in the game? I usually don't make those kind of threads but this relates to a problem about purchasing the game.

I'm not going to go back and quote stuff you said earlier. Your phrasing and others' was (read by me as) along the lines of the dozens of locked threads in the past 15 hours or so.

By "flipping out" I meant panicking. Not wanting to kill people.

If you didn't mean to sound pushy, and really was going for moderate criticism and pleas, then accept my sincerest apologies, good sir. I still have the same opinion though.

(btw, my parents don't buy my anything. they're old! )

Yeah, what he said.

Great, read my response, apply it to yourself as well. =.O

Well if this thread was inappropriate and violated forum rules it'd be closed by now. This thread has a more legitimate concern than having vehicles or a "my grand idea" request. Its not panicking its addressing a concern regarding purchasing a consumer product. Look we get it you don't think its a big deal and you don't care. You probably aren't even buying the collectors edition or pre-ordering so this may not apply to you. But for those of us who are dead-set on pre-ordering a collectors edition this is a concern and a issue that we have noticed. Not all the stores listed are going to sell the collectors edition and that store may have a pre-order bonus we really want. Is it really fair for those of us who are paying $70.00 (or whatever price it is in your country for a collectors edition) don't have the same choice as somebody paying $49.99 (or whatever price it is in your country for the regular game)? All that were requesting is to have the ability to pick 4/4 pre-order bonuses instead being limited to only 2/4 limited bonus editions. Isn't the whole point of this pre-order bonus gimmick is to buy from the store that has the pre-order bonus you like? And because I'm buying a collectors edition, which costs more money, I only get to pick between 2 stores which don't have the pre-order bonus I really want.

I just think it would be a better to still have pre-order bonuses, and have a choice to pick which you like during install regardless of what store you buy it from. Or maybe don't change anything about pre-order bonus gimmick, and with the collectors edition give us a choice of what pre-order bonus content we want during install. This way it works out for everybody pre-ordering the collectors edition.

Either way I'm repeating myself and either way you're still going to have the same opinion which is going to turn this into a broken record.

No, I am pre-ordering the CE, just need to figure out how, as I live out of the US. I just think that your "concern" is ridiculous.

I can't believe we're still going ohhhn and ohhhn about this. I'm done. You have my arguments.

That explains it... In the U.S. spending extra money for something is a big deal especially if you don't get all the features that are included in the cheaper version of something. Its just my culture I guess.

I think people just misunderstand. Out side of the US, here in britain anyway. The stores do not offer the Limited Edition on pre order. But the bonus from pre order is available to vanilla NV discs and downloads. So what some are asking is that we be allowed to pre order the LE and take advantage of 1 of the packs we want. Not all 4 of the bonus packs that some think we are asking for. In america by the sounds you can pre order the LE but only from 2 stockists. So you would just like it to be fair allowing you to choose any of the 4 bonus pack stockists to pre order the LE from rather than just the 2 they have at the moment.
See not cultral differences just eveyone is not getting the same treatment worldwide. We all want roughly the same. And the issue is cloudy whether it will be solved or not.

Wow you guys only get 1 from the stock list or not at all? Or am I mistaken on this and there is no pre-order bonus for the collectors edition... if that's the case then it still unfair for those who are paying extra money for the collectors edition.

Throwing spears and binoculars are in the normal game. They are not marked as "Pre-Order Exclusive".

Oh... I must have skimmed over the thread that stated that or did not see any information regarding. But still If anyone wants to get the pre-order for those bonuses, we can't get them pre-ordering the collectors edition due to some stores not selling the collectors edition which is the issue at heart.

Realizing, of course, that part of the reason the store chains go along with the whole "pre-order bonus" thing is to attract people to buy a game at their store. They don't want to have the same bonus as the other guy, because it serves no purpose for them.


How's this - we can go back to the way pre-order bonuses used to be done - only one store chain will get a bonus, as an exclusive marketing tool (which they probably paid the software company for the right to do), and all the rest of the chains will just sell you the game with no bonus at all.



(My personal position, other than "wow, people making a mountain out of a molehill".... The only effect this pre-order bonus plan will have on my purchasing decision is a slightly higher chance of actually doing a pre-order. It won't effect my store choice at all, because - why would it? You patronize the stores you like, and avoid the ones you don't. And if there happens to be a little bonus for doing so, hey cool. And that's exactly what these bonuses are to me - a tiny, little, small, trivial thing. No big deal.)

yea man i agree with you i what to get the collectors edition
and the pre-order bonus

We already have a thread ongoing about pre-order bonuses and there is way too much sniping at each other in this thread, so I will lock it before I have to start writing out warnings.