Stealing from Mages Guild? : IV

» Tue Jan 01, 2013 2:28 am

Earlier today I was going around to all the mage guild buildings grabbing stuff to sell. That was all good until I accidentally took something I wasn't supposed to, and I was suspended from the guild. After doing the quest for Raminus Polus in which I had to collect alchemy ingredients, I was reinstated to the guild, and I went back to finish by job. Except now when I go to grab anything, the red hand pops up telling me that this would be stealing. I even tried saving and taking something, but I was suspended from of the guild. Is this a glitch? I am 100% sure I'm back in the guild. My completed quest notification says so, and the faction page says so.

» Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:06 am

The http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Mages_Guild_Suspension is pretty helpful in general, and here, too:

Second Offense

After your second offense the procedure is nearly identical to the first offense. You are again sent to collect 20 Dragon's Tongues and 20 Redwort Flowers if you committed theft, or 20 Daedra Hearts and 20 Vampire Dusts for murder. The only difference is that this time around you must have 20 of both requested ingredients.
[http://www.uesp.net/w/index.php?title=Oblivion:Mages_Guild_Suspension&action=edit§ion=6] Third Offense

After your third offense, you are permanently expelled from the Mages Guild. The most serious implications are that you will no longer be able to access the Enchanting and Spellmaking altars and be permanently denied the services of http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Boderi_Farano (Advanced http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Mysticism Trainer), http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Martina_Floria (Master http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Illusion Trainer), http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Gaspar_Stegine and http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Borissean (Spell Merchants): they are all residents of the Arcane University, which will be forever closed from you.
If you are Arch-Mage it is impossible to get permanently expelled; you just receive a normal bounty for any offenses that you commit.

The theft thing seems reasonable enough. I would rather see all the fruit and veggies made just as restrictive as the meat, and all of it made more restrictive than it is--and there's a mod I use for that. But it's understandable that many folks wouldn't see things that way. Best of luck, regardless.

» Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:29 am

Thanks for response, but I think you misunderstood my question. The problem is that before I was suspended, I was able to take almost anything from the guild without it counting as stealing. But after my reinstatement to the guild, taking anything counts as stealing.

» Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:58 am

Maybe they don′t tolerate you taking stuff after your first suspension?

» Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:10 am

The items are owned by the Mages Guild faction, so it would appear that you're still not a member. If you're on a PC, you could check your status with "Player.GetFactionRank 22296" - if the result is -1 then you're not a member, zero or more you are. I'm not sure if the factions tab is accurate during suspension.