Considering that the West Coast (if you didnt pick the peace treaty option in New Vegas) gets wiped out, then thats the end for the west coast, but i would actually like to know about what do you think will happen to the east coast brotherhood, and Midwestern.

when i mean wiped out, i mean by the NCR

Why the west Brotherhood is more than that one bunker. Even then the peace treaty is only for the Mojave chapter.

The Mojove Branch of the West Coast is only wiped out, worst-case scenario.

Best case scenario is that it'll slowly shift from "protectors of Tech" to something more in line with the Followers; make sure that tech developed and used is used properly; since it's clear that they aren't capable of hoarding technology anymore, it's within line of the Codex to try and keep humanity on the Straight and Narrow. After all, the line of "BoS only uses tech" was put in place to prevent a Cavemen with Nukes scenario.

Remainder of the West Coast may or may not follow the Mojove Branch's lead in it's Best-Case scenario. If it doesn't, it'll die out.

We don't exactly know what happened to the MWBoS. I like to think that the Enclave came in and either wiped it out, or convinced it to join up with them. It easily explains the inferior Mk. II Suits we see in FO3 (less protective than the Mk. I's, and physicially similar to the MWBoS Power Armor.)

Lyon's BoS has the Lone Wanderer. It's the only one that will do well, but only by ignoring several core principals of the Brotherhood of Steel when it comes to technology. Remember; they're not saving tech so much as they are saving people.

Given that even after years of censoring, exileing, and cutting off contact, with those who have changed thier viewpoints to a mroe reasonable path, and yet there are still people like Elijah, Veronica, and Mcnamara, who know the BoS needs to change, or die, I can see three possible fututres for the BoS
1. They contiue thier decline in power till the NCr finally purges hem
2. There ims some internal pwoer struggle between the idiot isolationists, and the non idiot progressives, which results in the BoS becoming so weak that they die off, or allows the NCR to use the chance to kill them.
3. The non idiot progressives manage to take power, turning them into something like the Followers, or Lyon's BoS.

Depending on what the canon ending is for New Vegas, the Mojave chapter has three options: be wiped out, begin adapting to the wasteland and become something like the Followers, or remain the same and covet their codex. I'm going to assume that the MWBoS has either teamed up with or assimilated the Enclave in Chicago. While they seem to be the best hope that the Brotherhood has, seeing as how the NCR went to war with the West coast, they aren't really the Brotherhood of Steel anymore. They just have the same name, most of the original values no longer apply to them. Then there's the Capitol Wasteland branch... Even with the Enclave tech that they could scavenge, they're screwed in the long run. Unless the Lone Wanderer chose to side with the Enclave, (which is never going to happen,) the super mutants will still be taking control of D.C. Even if all the mutants at Vault 87 were killed, the survivors from downtown coudl easily go back and get the FEV flowing again. Not to mention the heavy slaver and raider presence in the area. They could barely keep the mutants back, losing men fighting the Enclave isn't helping their case. So West coast is assumedly dead, Lyons is going to be taken over by mutants or someone else given time, and the MWBos has pretty much abandoned everything the Brotherhood followed. Unless the Elders at Lost Hills, (assuming they're still alive,) make a treaty like the Mojave did in Vegas, I don't see the true Brotherhood of Steel coming out in any case.

http://tagaziel.blogspot.de/2012/02/brotherhood-is-dead.html, but Lyons' Brotherhood is screwed, primarily because Owyn Lyons is a senile old man with no grasp of strategy.

Personally I think that the way the Mojave Brotherhood make peace with the NCR but not the rest of the Brotherhood proper needs to be speculated upon further. How does that work exactly? Is each Brotherhood Chapter vested with complete autonomy?

But video game writing could just as easily say Lyon's died and they lived forever.

For once, I actually agreed with with just about everything you said.

Good article.

I'd disagree a bit on the Midwestern Brotherhood however. Since their fate largely depends on what the ending to Tactics is. Assuming the Barnaky ending is canon for instance, its clear that the Brotherhood holds quite a large amount of territory spanning from Chicago towards the western part of the Midwest. With the supplementary forces of the calculator, I wouldn't term their armed forces "small."

Also, while I think everything you said about CWBOS was dead on. I doubt Bethesda will share your view. I'm sure they have "big plans" Lyons. Regardless of how little it makes sense.


As a random side note, if that is indeed your picture, you look shockingly like someone I know.

I think Lyons' Brotherhood is still able to pull through. There's still plenty of stuff, both Enclave tech and pre-war stuff, to scavenge, and they did manage to get Liberty Prime running, something that even the pre-war USA wasn't able to do, plus they're now building Tesla Cannons. I think they've got more than enough resources to sooner or later start producing other things, especially considering the Super Mutants are on the decline.

And just as an observation, I've noticed a trend in videogames, that even if fridge horror points to a group being screwed, it's quite likely they'll pull through stronger than ever. Case in point the Empire and House Redoran in TES V (admittedly, the Empire isn't doing well but it did survive 200 years after the last Septim died), and pretty much everyone in Mass Effect 3.

That, and Lyon destroys the Talon Company in Broken Steel, and with the "cure" for The Pitt being made, they wont have to buy slaves anymore, thus killing the slavers primary source of income, had the Lone wander not just killed them all himself.

Bethesda pretty much set up the CW as being a place without any real problems but raiders, and those should be soon going away since they no longer need to raid for food/water since the purifier is back on.

The west Coast BoS are nothing but remnants.... Scattered
The Midwest BoS are their own faction by now... For themselves and care nothing for the other factions
The East Coast BoS, broken by civil unrest among the ranks... they've become two seperate entities all together... The outcasts adhering to the ways of old... becoming more bitter as the months go on.... While the EC BoS become stronger in their convictions... taking on the role of government for the D.C. region.

West Coast will die out or be wiped out.

MWBoS, we don't know much, depends on Tactics ending. But Fallout 3 says they are in Chicago and New Vegas says they are in Colorado. So it would suggest that they still control territory from Chicago to Colorado. Vault Zero being in Colorado.

In Fallout New Vegas brotherhood are captured in the Legion's Eastern territory. The only BoS that could possibly be is the MWBoS in Colorado.