Why isn't New Vegas LIVE for PC's ? : Fallout: New Vegas

» Sat Mar 27, 2010 1:46 pm

I don't understand why they've withdrawn from LIVE for the PC version. I have all the achievements from the previous game, really enjoyed it and am glad it was added to my xbox account. Addons were simple and easy to update and install, zero problems. Now I find that the PC version won't have any LIVE integration. Very disappointing indeed. Whenever there is a LIVE game that I can play on the PC over the Xbox I always choose the former, but in this cas I'll be forced to go for the Xbox version so I can add the achievements.

Does anyone know why they decided not to go with Bethesda's previous method ?

» Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:31 pm

I don't understand why they've withdrawn from LIVE for the PC version. I have all the achievements from the previous game, really enjoyed it and am glad it was added to my xbox account. Addons were simple and easy to update and install, zero problems. Now I find that the PC version won't have any LIVE integration. Very disappointing indeed. Whenever there is a LIVE game that I can play on the PC over the Xbox I always choose the former, but in this cas I'll be forced to go for the Xbox version so I can add the achievements.

Does anyone know why they decided not to go with Bethesda's previous method ?

Probably because the majority complained and hated Bethesda for forcing LIVE upon them. They're using Steam now, and Steam DOES have achievements. They just aren't part of your xbox account.

» Sun Mar 28, 2010 1:16 am

Personally, I would prefer it to not be connected to anything. I like a simple disk check to anything.

» Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:15 am

Personally, I would prefer it to not be connected to anything. I like a simple disk check to anything.

Same here. I plan to run Steam in Offline mode for the duration, and not even running at all by default.

» Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:50 pm

It has been decided not to use GFWLive. The explanation for Steam is here in the pinned topics.

What does Steamworks mean to you? Senior producer Jason Bergman explains:

"Fallout: New Vegas uses Steamworks for achievements and other features (such as friends lists, cloud storage of user preferences and so on). Use of Steam will be mandatory at retail. So what does that mean? We’ve implemented Steamworks in as light and unobtrusive a way as possible. Yes, you will have to install Steam when you install Fallout: New Vegas if you don’t already have it. And yes, you will have to be online at the time of that initial install. However you can install the game on as many systems as you want (with no restrictions!), and you do not have to be online to play the game after your initial activation. Not only that, but once the game has activated on Steam, you can throw out the game DVD entirely and just download the game over Steam. If you don’t even have a DVD drive, you can just take the CD-Key from the box, enter it into Steam, and download it without ever using the disc at all.

For those concerned, this will have no affect on mod development whatsoever. Modders will still be able to create and distribute their plugins the same way they have in the past.

We made the decision to use Steam after looking at all the various options out there and decided that it provided the best, least intrusive experience for PC gamers. We think you’ll agree."