The Great War(Part Two?)

Post » Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:39 am

After having read 'The Great War' and having watched all of Tyrannicon's Great Battles of Skyrim I began to wonder what they could do to help resolve the issue of the High King in Skyrim as well as the many disputes between the Empire, Nords, Redguards and the Thalmor. I know not everyone could run that many NPCs on the screen at once but the idea I have been playing on is a 'what if', since I had recently heard of the 'supposed' two new DLC which will cover the origin of the ancient Nords and the issue over the High King. So I'll cut straight to it.

- The issue of the High King is resolved, leaving Skyrim either loyal to the Empire or having just broken away to form their own kingdom under the rule of Ulfric Stormcloak.

- The Thalmor declare war on the Empire, like the German Blitzkrieg and much like the strart of the Great War they make a mad dash across Imperial lands in attempt to take the Imperial City and defeat the already weakened Empire. Or, likewise with the dispute in Skyrim resolved and Skyrim once again in the fold of the Empire the Thalmor declare war, given the civil war has left them if not slightly drained. Either way, the same result happens with the Thalmor declaring war.

- Obviously, the Empire will suffer grave loses at the start leaving it in the Dragonborn's hands to help aid the Empire.

- Or likewise Ulfric seeing the Empire crumbling chooses to stand by their side, granted he hates the Empire but the enemey of my enemey is my friend so to speak? In this case of having sided with the Stormcloaks you go to the Empire's aid to simply keep the Thalmor from gaining any more land.

This is where I began to think a little deeper on what we could hope for, or expect to see.

- Gathering up an army in Skyrim; mustering troops from all the holds, including and maybe limited to The Companions and the College of Winterhold.

- Asking for aid from Hammerfall, to help make one final stand against the forces of the Thalmor.

- Mayhaps, even gaining the aid of the Dragons if you've already beat the main quest.

Again, this is all just an idea brought on after a long day of modding and listening to Skyworld from Two Steps from Hell. Skyrim is a great game all around and I am sure no matter what they give us as a DLC to resolve the issue of the Thalmor, Empire and High King will be as great of an idea as there can be. Feel free to leave your feedback and ideas of your own as to what might happen. I'm eager to see what everyone else has thought of in regards to a 'proper ending' to the game.
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Post » Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:29 am

- The Thalmor declare war on the Empire, like the German Blitzkrieg and much like the strart of the Great War they make a mad dash across Imperial lands in attempt to take the Imperial City and defeat the already weakened Empire.
That's not going to happen. If you talk to Tullius during the "Season Unending quest", he mentions that he doesn't get any reinforcements from The Empire, and when asked why he doesn't, he mentions that The Empire is massing all of its forces on the border with the AD.

The Empire isn't going to let what allowed the AD to beat them so quickly the first time to happen again.
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Post » Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:01 pm

- The Thalmor declare war on the Empire, like the German Blitzkrieg and much like the strart of the Great War they make a mad dash across Imperial lands in attempt to take the Imperial City and defeat the already weakened Empire. Or, likewise with the dispute in Skyrim resolved and Skyrim once again in the fold of the Empire the Thalmor declare war, given the civil war has left them if not slightly drained. Either way, the same result happens with the Thalmor declaring war.

- Obviously, the Empire will suffer grave loses at the start leaving it in the Dragonborn's hands to help aid the Empire.

- Or likewise Ulfric seeing the Empire crumbling chooses to stand by their side, granted he hates the Empire but the enemey of my enemey is my friend so to speak? In this case of having sided with the Stormcloaks you go to the Empire's aid to simply keep the Thalmor from gaining any more land.

I tend to think this is what will probably happen given what we know of the thalmor.

But I have a couple other supporting pieces of evidence for it. I'll spoiler them due to the possibility that folks may not have done the relevant quests and such yet

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-Titus is dead. Assassinated by one of the council members.(And was implied to be a power grab) The last time this happened, Cyrodiil went into a 7 years civil war. Amaund survives either way.

-Cyrodiil's cities are being overrun by drug dealers and bandits. Bravil is overrun. Cheydinhal is destroyed, with the implication that they're not the only cities having this issue.

-Cicero outright states that Cyrodiil is currently ravaged by strife.

The Empire isn't going to let what allowed the AD to beat them so quickly the first time to happen again.

Given the events that occur in skyrim, Tullius's frustration with the politicians, and the lack of a clear candidate for emperor, I wouldn't be so certain.
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Post » Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:20 pm

Given the events that occur in skyrim, Tullius's frustration with the politicians, and the lack of a clear candidate for emperor, I wouldn't be so certain.
The death of The Empror means little, in terms of negatives, in fact, it could probably be the single greatest boon for The Empire's cause.

Titus Mede II was almost universally hated by everyone in The Empire, if he had been in charge when the war started, I doubt he would have had much civilian support, becuase everyone would just think he would wussy out again if it even looked like he was going to lose.

With Titus Mede's death, a new leader can take the throne, a leader who ISN'T hated by everyone, and use the anti-thalmor sentiment, and a campaign of "I'm not gonna [censored] out like Titus did" to rally the people to his cause.
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Post » Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:50 pm

The death of The Empror means little, in terms of negatives, in fact, it could probably be the single greatest boon for The Empire's cause.

Titus Mede II was almost universally hated by everyone in The Empire, if he had been in charge when the war started, I doubt he would have had much civilian support, becuase everyone would just think he would wussy out again if it even looked like he was going to lose.

With Titus Mede's death, a new leader can take the throne, a leader who ISN'T hated by everyone, and use the anti-thalmor sentiment, and a campaign of "I'm not gonna [censored] out like Titus did" to rally the people to his cause.

Tullius wants to start war again. Says he has problems with politicians back home. Titus is killed by said politicians. Surely things will get better.

I mean http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Rising_Threat,_Vol._IV
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Post » Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:09 am

Tullius wants to start war again. Says he has problems with politicians back home. Titus is killed by said politicians. Surely things will get better.

I mean http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Rising_Threat,_Vol._IV
Who says they are the same politicians? nothing, baseless assumptions.

Furthermore, just because it happened before, doesn't mean it will happen again, more baseless assumptions, not to mention the fact that we have no idea if titus has an heir or not, the entire question of leadership could be wholly negated if we knew.
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Post » Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:13 pm

If you two have theories of your own I'd certainly love to hear them either way! I've been sitting here the last week just immersing myself in the lore while getting ready for TES: Online to come out. Been playing the heck out of Morrowind recently.
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Post » Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:48 am

Furthermore, just because it happened before, doesn't mean it will happen again, more baseless assumptions, not to mention the fact that we have no idea if titus has an heir or not, the entire question of leadership could be wholly negated if we knew.

So basically yours are baseless assumptions too, but without sources that corroborate.

Ok.

PS Baseless means nothing to support it.

I've already provided sources that reinforce it. Care to provide yours?
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