Skyrim will be $60 on the PC

Post » Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:07 pm

Just to add to my previous post, I'd like to point out that the Australian dollar is roughly equal to the US dollar at the moment.

Our video games cost around $100. Yours cost $50.

Get over it.
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Post » Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:16 pm

I think I can hear the Steam forums blowing up.
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Post » Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:59 pm

Inflation, different economic system..bad comparisons. 100 years ago video games didn't exist...another flawed example.

For the record I never said I don't expect games to increase in value and price, only that nobody is concerned of the price increases which gives the companies every reason to sell for those prices. Some people are fine with 100 dollar games, and would be perfectly willing to pay that much. Would you be fine if a company started selling games for that much?


Not seeing how that was a flawed example of video games not existing 100 years ago, it's an anologous of the argument. As for Inflation being a different economic system and it being a bad comparison, lol...really? Did you just really say that? Inflation affects everything. The car example is perfectly accurate. Cars have gone up in price as years have gone by as well have, video games, Computers (though in some cases they have also gone down in price due to manufacturing revolutions) and most everything including Food and Raw materials. Everything goes up in price and just because people throw a fit about having to pay slightly more money for something won't change the fact that prices will continue to go up and most likely in a hundred years, 10 dollars will be like 1 dollar is now just like how 1 dollar now is like 1 cent 100 years ago.
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Post » Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:46 pm

Jara, you are like the 10th person to say that. :P
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Post » Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:45 pm

You do realize that Crysis was released later in 2006 and hadn't been in development nearly as long as Oblivion....


lol! a couple of months clearly makes a difference the the way the graphics will look. No doubt Oblivion was a bigger game, Crysis was not, however that is entirely irrelevant. The topic is graphics. If you were making a comparison between Oblivion and other games of its kind...fine but then again their weren't many games like Oblivion so there wasn't much competition.
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Post » Tue Mar 30, 2010 12:24 pm

Jara, you are like the 10th person to say that. :P


Well, it's true. You Yankees need to stop complainin'.

There's starving kids in Africa who don't even have video games.
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Post » Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:12 pm

lol! a couple of months clearly makes a difference the the way the graphics will look. No doubt Oblivion was a bigger game, Crysis was not, however that is entirely irrelevant. The topic is graphics. If you were making a comparison between Oblivion and other games of its kind...fine but then again their weren't many games like Oblivion so there wasn't much competition.


Umm Crysis was in development roughly 2 years and had picked up a new graphics engine from 2004. Oblivion started development roughly around Q3 in 2002 on Gamebryo. That's three years difference in graphics technology and adhering to Moore's Law that the quality of the technology had increased 150%. 3 years in the Computer Technology field might as well be 3 decades. Don't throw your hat into the ring when you obviously don't work in the VG industry and probably haven't worked on a true licensed game engine in your life.
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Post » Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:19 am

Not seeing how that was a flawed example of video games not existing 100 years ago, it's an anologous of the argument. As for Inflation being a different economic system and it being a bad comparison, lol...really? Did you just really say that? Inflation affects everything. The car example is perfectly accurate. Cars have gone up in price as years have gone by as well have, video games, Computers (though in some cases they have also gone down in price due to manufacturing revolutions) and most everything including Food and Raw materials. Everything goes up in price and just because people throw a fit about having to pay slightly more money for something won't change the fact that prices will continue to go up and most likely in a hundred years, 10 dollars will be like 1 dollar is now just like how 1 dollar now is like 1 cent 100 years ago.


You don't see the problem of comparing money to something that didn't exist at one point but now does? Sorry can't help you there. Many drastic instances of Inflation occurred over the timespan you're talking about. And no I wasn't talking about Inflation being a different economic system..that doesn't even make any sense. America was a completely different country back then with far greater and more frequently plagued by recessions/depression. Like I mentioned in my recent post I never said I don't expect prices to go up, rather I anolyze how and why they are going up, the reasons underlining the increase. Now let's apply that to the recent trend in video games..why, or rather what is a good reason for the extra 10 dollars on PC games?
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Post » Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:51 am

Well, it's true. You Yankees need to stop complainin'.

There's starving kids in Africa who don't even have video games.


I aint no Yank! Im from Canada!

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Post » Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:20 pm

I wouldn't complain, here in Australia, we will be paying $120 dollars, even though our dollar is worth more than yours.
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Post » Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:54 pm

It's not our fault that for some reason games cost more in Australia.

Also, graphics don't make the video game. That's a terrible assumption.
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Post » Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:20 pm

I just asked @Bethblog and @DcDeacon (Pete Hines) to confirm whether or not the PC version is $59. Awaiting a reply...
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Post » Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:48 pm

$80?!?! I have seen many games that were 69.99 but non that were 80! Dang, people on the east coast must have it bad.

That's after taxes. They're only $69.99 before tax, 15% sales tax svcks, but you get used to it after awhile.
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Post » Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:28 am

Umm Crysis was in development roughly 2 years and had picked up a new graphics engine from 2004. Oblivion started development roughly around Q3 in 2002 on Gamebryo. That's three years difference in graphics technology and adhering to Moore's Law that the quality of the technology had increased 150%. 3 years in the Computer Technology field might as well be 3 decades. Don't throw your hat into the ring when you obviously don't work in the VG industry and probably haven't worked on a true licensed game engine in your life.


I would like to see you apply Moore's Law to the Crytek engine. They picked it up on 2004 and released it in 2006. Now..almost 4 years later please show me a better looking game engine. Even to this day a 4+ year old engine is stretching the limits of more modern graphics cards and processors. Very few people can play Crysis on Ultra High.
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Post » Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:06 pm

$80?!?! I have seen many games that were 69.99 but non that were 80! Dang, people on the east coast must have it bad.


Hah, here in Brazil, PS3 and 360 games are around $120-40.
PC games on the other way are the standard $49.
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Post » Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:32 am

That means $100 in Australia could probarby get $40-$60 off if I buy online through
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Post » Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:54 pm

You don't see the problem of comparing money to something that didn't exist at one point but now does? Sorry can't help you there. Many drastic instances of Inflation occurred over the timespan you're talking about. And no I wasn't talking about Inflation being a different economic system..that doesn't even make any sense. America was a completely different country back then with far greater and more frequently plagued by recessions/depression. Like I mentioned in my recent post I never said I don't expect prices to go up, rather I anolyze how and why they are going up, the reasons underlining the increase. Now let's apply that to the recent trend in video games..why, or rather what is a good reason for the extra 10 dollars on PC games?


I'm not sure what you don't get about the word anologous. The comment about video games being $0 100 years ago thus you shouldn't be paying anything for it was an anology of the very situation where you said you shouldn't have to pay more than you were paying 15 years ago. Also, America has seen more recessions in the last 40 years than in the entire history of the country due to Reaganomics. Also the point of my posts were to show you why the trend of price increase is in video games, it's because price increase is a trend in ALL products. When the prices of products increase, then minimum wage increases to allow for breathing room for products such as food and what not, which then the companies having to pay the increased wages increase the price of their products to compensate. This is why prices increase and the VG industry is not immune to inflation and thus you can not expect to not pay more money for video games. I don't know why you think that you will have to pay $50 from now until the end of human civilization for a video game on PC. Frankly, if the game is good I would pay $120. Everything has a price and if it is entertaining enough to warrant the price then I'm all for it.
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Post » Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:22 pm

I think the point that should stop the inflation argument is as follows:

The console version has not gone up $60.

Thus, they are not doing it "just to keep the same profit".
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Post » Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:44 pm

I just asked @Bethblog and @DcDeacon (Pete Hines) to confirm whether or not the PC version is $59. Awaiting a reply...

That probably should have been done ages ago :P thank you.
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Post » Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:50 pm

That probably should have been done ages ago :P thank you.


No problem, though I don't think they will reply today, it's Sunday. They must be off...
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Post » Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:27 pm

I would like to see you apply Moore's Law to the Crytek engine. They picked it up on 2004 and released it in 2006. Now..almost 4 years later please show me a better looking game engine. Even to this day a 4+ year old engine is stretching the limits of more modern graphics cards and processors. Very few people can play Crysis on Ultra High.


I agree that Crytek is an amazing engine. It is insanely good looking but Moore's Law applies to it too, here is an engine that beats Crytek, Id tech 6 which will most likely be featured in Skyrim. Id tech 5 has the capability to surpass the texture quality of rocks and other terrain of Crytek. I'm not sure how the water of Id tech 5 compares to Crytek but Crytek's water is really nice.
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Post » Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:05 am

MY GOODNESS! I HAVE NEVER SEEN A TWELVE PAGES THREAD ON THIS FORUMS!

*screenshot*

The mods must be sleeping...
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Post » Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:52 pm

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If anyone wants to continue discussion, make a new thread.
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