Very poor performance. Do I need to leave mods out?

Post » Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:33 am

Hello!

I've been installing lots of mods for the last two or three days. The biggest newer mods are: RAEVWD, All Natural and Immersive Interiors. The rest of the novelties in my load order (many new mods indeed) are not heavy mods, I think. Before installing all these novelties I was getting enough FPS out of the cities and then I already had MMM, Better Cities and the UL compilation installed. All my texture replacers, then and now, are reduced to 1024.

This is my current load order:


Active Mod Files:
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00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.34]02  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]03  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.8b1]04  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 5.2.5]05  Fundament.esm  [Version ision]06  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.4.3]07  UOPS Additional Changes.esp08  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp09  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0A  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.5.2]++  USIPS Additional Changes.esp0B  Better Cities .esp  [Version 4.7.0]0C  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp0D  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.34]0E  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.34]++  All Natural - MMM Patch.esp  [Version 1.3]0F  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.8.1]10  PTAutumnTrees.esp11  OBGE - Liquid Water.esp12  Better Bell Sounds.esp++  Symphony of Violence.esp13  Atmospheric Oblivion.esp14  PTCombatSpeechcraftMedium.esp15  Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.1]16  OBSE-Storms & Sound SI.esp17  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.34]18  WindowLightingSystem.esp19  AliveWaters_nofish.esp1A  My Voice Extender.esp1B  Camping.esp1C  RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp  [Version 1.7]1D  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.4.3]1E  Crowded Roads Advanced.esp  [Version 1.3]1F  Get Wet - just droplets.esp20  kuerteeAutoSaveAndTime.esp21  kuerteeCleanUp.esp22  MigMiscellanea.esp  [Version 1.1]23  Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp  [Version 0.42]24  Streamline 3.1.esp25  Dynamic Map.esp  [Version 2.1.1]26  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.9.3]27  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.9.3]28  DLCHorseArmor.esp29  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]2A  DLCOrrery.esp2B  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]2C  DLCVileLair.esp2D  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]2E  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp2F  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]30  Sounds of Cyrodiil - Mehrune's Razor Add-On.esp  [Version 1.0]31  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]++  MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp**  RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp32  DLCThievesDen.esp33  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.11]34  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.11]35  Sounds of Cyrodiil - Thieves' Den Add-On.esp  [Version 1.0]36  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]37  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]38  Mart's Monster Mod.esp  [Version 3.8b1]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.8b1]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp  [Version 3.8b1]39  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b7]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.8b1]3A  Mart's Monster Mod - Durability & Damage.esp  [Version 3.7b7]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Rats.esp  [Version 3.8b1]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.esp  [Version 3.8b1]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.esp  [Version 3.8b1]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Reduced Vanilla.esp  [Version 3.8b1]3B  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp  [Version 3.8b1]3C  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.8b1]3D  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.8b1]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions MMM+Fran.esp  [Version 3.8b1]3E  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.8b1]3F  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.8b1]++  Mart's Monster Mod - DLCHorseArmor+Slofs .esp  [Version 0.92]40  kuerteeWanderingEncounters.esp++  Mart's Monster Mod - RadiantAITweaks.esp++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]41  Weapon Expansion Pack for Oblivion Nthusiasts.esp  [Version 1.03]42  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp43  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]44  DLCFrostcrag.esp45  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]46  Knights.esp47  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Knights.esp  [Version 3.8b1]48  Sounds of Cyrodiil - KOTN Add-on.esp  [Version 1.0]49  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]4A  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]4B  xulTheHeath.esp4C  xulEntiusGorge.esp  [Version 1.2.1]4D  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]4E  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.2]4F  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.3]50  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.5]51  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.4]52  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.2]53  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.4]54  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]55  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]56  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.4]57  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]58  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.3]59  xulPantherRiver.esp5A  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]5B  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1.1]5C  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.8]5D  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]5E  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]5F  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]60  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.2]61  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.5]62  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp  [Version 1.12]63  xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp  [Version 1.0.3]64  xulJerallGlacier.esp  [Version 1.0.1]65  xulTheEasternPeaks.esp  [Version 1.0.1]66  Better Cities - House price patch.esp  [Version 1.0]67  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]68  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]69  Auto Update Leveled Items And Spells.esp  [Version 1.2.5]6A  Better Dungeons.esp6B  HUD Status Bars.esp  [Version 5.3.2]++  Improved Fires and Flames - Increased Sound.esp6C  kuerteeInventoryIsABackpack.esp6D  PersuasionOverhaul.esp  [Version 1.43]++  PersuasionOverhaul_MMM.esp  [Version 1.2]6E  Enhanced Vegetation [125%].esp6F  Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp  [Version 5.4.3]70  Alternative Beginnings.esp  [Version 1.4.1]71  RealisticFatigue.esp72  RealisticHealth.esp73  Basic Physical Activities.esp  [Version 1.3]74  Vampire Diversity.esp75  Magic Effects OBSE Tweaks.esp  [Version 4.0]76  SM Combat Hide.esp  [Version 1.2]77  MindControlCrime.esp78  PTSneakPenalties.esp79  MigLockpicking.esp  [Version 1.7]7A  SM Bounty.esp  [Version 1.22c]++  CoblDeathFix.esp  [Version 1.20]7B  sycHearNoEvil.esp  [Version 1.0]7C  sycSHOUT.esp  [Version 1.02]7D  kuerteeCrimeHasWitnesses.esp7E  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.5]7F  Duke Patricks - Combat Archery.esp  [Version 7.3.5]80  kuerteeNPCsYield.esp81  Phitt's Phighting Phixes.esp82  BFG's Enhanced Armory.esp83  Duke Patricks - Melee Combat NO RECOIL.esp  [Version 5.9]84  nGCD.esp85  nGCD Oghma Infinium.esp**  Cava Obscura - Cyrodiil.esp**  Cava Obscura - SI.esp**  Cava Obscura - Filter Patch For Mods.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.78]++  Item interchange - Placement.esp  [Version 0.78]++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp  [Version 0.78]86  ScriptEffectSubduer.esp87  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.52EV-D]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.8b1]88  bgBalancingOptionalLessHealth.esp  [Version 10.0UV-U]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalClasses.esp  [Version 9.0EV-U]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalFangs.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp  [Version 10]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalBetterRedguards.esp**  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, TNR Merge Better Redguards.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalSeamReducerHighElfFix.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]89  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 5.2.5]8A  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp  [Version 5.2.4]8B  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 5.2.4]8C  Better Cities - All Natural.esp  [Version 4.9.5]8D  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp  [Version 5.1.2]8E  Better Cities B&M - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp  [Version 5.1.2]8F  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp  [Version 5.1.0]90  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp  [Version 5.0.0]91  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp  [Version 5.1.0]92  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp  [Version 5.2.1]++  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.2]93  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp  [Version 4.8.1]**  [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp++  kuerteeEffectDrainShaderInitialGlowOnly.esp++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.34]94  Bashed Patch, 0.esp


I have Oblivion Stutter Remover and Streamline, both configured. Streamsight is disabled in Streamline's ini, so that All Natural is the only mod managing the fog in the game. However, when Streamline initializes I'm getting a strange message saying I should set up the fog distance in the sl.ini to match ugriddistantcount, which makes no sense, since I have Streamsight set to 0 (disabled) in the ini.

I'm using the 'closer' fog values (very slight improvement in performance can be expected) in All Natural.ini. In Oblivion.ini I've tested the values 20, 18 and 15 for both ugriddistantcount and ugriddistanttreerange with very little or no difference in performance. I'm using this value for ipreloadsizelimit in Oblivion.ini: iPreloadSizeLimit=157286400.

What else can I try? I don't mind getting low FPS when in the cities, but I'd like to get at least 25-30 outdoors. Perhaps, I need to leave mods out of the equation?

My rig specs in case it is something useful:
i5-3570k not overclocked, 16 GB RAM DDR3-1600, GTX 670 2 GB, SSD Samsung 830 series 256 GB.

Thanks in advance!
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Cesar Gomez
 
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Post » Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:08 pm

Define "very poor performance"
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