President Robert Ashford- United States

"Fables indeed, General Marchment," Ashford replied swiftly, "In any case, I stand by my assertion. The acceptance of the NEC into NASP was not a betrayal of the NASP agreement. I fail to see how it could be when you yourself voted on it, General Marchment. Unless you presume that I managed to change your vote against your will, of which I would need to be a cheeky bastard indeed. Do not try to spin it as though your alliance with the Mexicans, a nation we very nearly went to war with, is of the same caliber as what you accuse me of. I simply believed the NEC worth saving from your enslavement, General. Yes, as the President of the United States I make decisions sometimes that can be considered hard ones to make. I believed that the NEC were as much citizens of the United States as myself. It was hardly an arbitrary matter, but more of one with regards to their intelligence, brilliance, and overall republican attitude which was so closely reminiscent of our own nation."

"Perhaps instead we should discuss why I cannot trade for the territory which you so recently offered me? Is it perhaps because to do so would mean expanding Imperium interests in South America, in complete indifference to my NCR allies there? If you give them to me freely, I will take them, and do what I can to save its populace from British demeanor, but I will be damned if you accuse me of being hypocritical when the reason I cannot make the decision you so taunt me for is due to my fear, yes fear, of your nations own expansionist policies."


"You are of course, quite right Overseer Bishop, my speech got the better of me. Forgive me," Ashford said, straitening his suit.

"Then thy doth admit that thy doth consider "US Citizens" whom-ever ist most valuable and agreeable to thee at the moment, I ist sure that thy founding-fathers doth agree with thine sentiment sir. I am trying to teach thee sir that thine "reverence" for thine nation is a lie thy hath been taught, thy ambassador and other nationals hath been studied by the Drakelow establishment for sometime Mr President; thy doth believe to be the paragon of Americkan ideals when thy hath systematically destroyed them through-out thy history for thine own benefit - exactly in accordance with the Great Truth.

You hath merely to realise that thy hath done them sir, when 'twas thy fore-fathers intended mass-genocide were they not United States citizens then? But now they are? And thy doth claim to respect the sentiment and culture of thine nation Mr President? The Enclave, more than any other nation, came so close to the Great Truth that 'tis almost unconceivable, 'twas the case sir that they predecessors were too good at what thy doth set in motion and forget to tell someone that 'twas all a lie for the convenience of the now."

Grand Admiral Nakahiko

?"The Imperium controls the entirety of the Carribean, England, Iceland, parts of France, a sizable chunk of South America, Mexico, Central America, and now you want to gobble up the South Pacific which is Japan's backyard and you try to turn it around as to why we were not alarmed at the Aurordian presence in the Philippines?"

"Firstly, Aurordia had taken the Philippines prior to Japan opening up to the Occident it was beyond our control as to their control of the Philippines and in order to prevent a possible war or hostility we negotiated an alliance of sorts. We became friends at spoke at large about how we would handle our expansion in contested regions so as to prevent hostility. But now I fear Japan may have made a mistake in attempting to stay in neutral in a conflict regarding two nations of the Occident."

"I believe the question of why they "doth not hath" to answer, has been answered already, friendly relations and understanding. But it seems that they have answered and at the tip of the Imperium's sword. It is non-negotiable that the Imperium, at the finalization of thsi peace treaty remove itself from the Philippines. If you wish to discuss other territories, we should do such, for without creating a boundary now, we will, without a doubt in my mind, come to a point of fighting once more."

President Robert Ashford- United States

Ashford sat back for a moment, pondering what General Marchment had just said. His words regarding the U.S. actually following the Great Truth was....disconcerting, it rang in Ashford's ear like he had just been hit with something. He hadn't considered the possibility of such a thing. Could it be possible? Was indeed the Enclave of the past, the nation before the formation of the United States, themselves espousing the Great Truth? He could never admit it, but what Marchment was saying...well....it made some sense.

The President thought deeply for a few moments, unsure of what to say or how to respond to such a thing. Finally a smile crept across his face, of course he knew the answer to such a thing. There should have been no question in his mind. Of course the idea of the United States following the British Great Truth was foolish,

"The difference, General Marchment, is that the American ideals you believe you have set down, are of a constantly mutable origin. To say that the founding fathers did not intend for what we became, what we did, or what we will do is to suggest the obvious: that the United States is not an ideology General Marchment. It is a sovieregn nation, of whom the values and ideas contained within its people constantly change and shift. We did what we believed needed to be done, General, nothing more and nothing less. We are always espousing the ideals of the United States, of America, because we. are. America."

OOC: Ugh, so much posts.

President Lynwood Zarander - Aurodia

"To speak out, it is true we conquered far more land than any other nation under our pretext of Neo-Americana. What I will not accept is the Imperiumgaining the Philippines, our first overseas colony as we know the geographical position of the Philippines and the implication of the Imperium gaining acquiring full control over. I will not accept it and you can guess my reasons why we dont want the Imperium in Southeast Asia."

"And when I see the British and Mexicans, who have the greatest population, largest military and economy, I do see a reason to fear the Imperium because there territories are the Carribean, England, Iceland, parts of France, a sizable chunk of South America, Mexico, and Central America. And you attack us for being expansionists, while the Imperium is more cruel and barbaric in taking over the former lands of former countries in the pre-war world. I find your reasonning for your attack on us to be pathetic for we function differently than the Imperium. Simply, the Imperium gaining the Philippines is there gateway to Asia but the beginnings of there "empire."

Alexander Bishop, Grand Overseer of the Vigil

" No matter, mister President, let us continue though. " Just as he had spoken, the two were back to fighting. It was hopeless so Bishop leaned back and waited for them to tire. When Zarander finally spoke, the Grand Overseer answered.

" I'm afraid you have no say, Zarander. You cannot negotiate, because you are the one with a blade to his throat at the moment. What you will and will not accept doesn't matter. What we are discussing is what you will give to end this war. I'll admit, some concessions from the aggressors might be made but you are the one bargaining with us, not the other way around, You can't demand or such, you must listen. Accept and deny what you may. You also say the Imperium is the entity to abhor here, why not yourself? Isn't your Neo-Americana, of which is foolish itself due the fact your people are not American as you think, just like the ideology that drives the Imperium? To call them pathetic yet besides, how laughable. "

"And it is a matter, Mr President, of ensuring your ideals are geared towards ensuring your own survival, sentiment and semantics are dead-weight to be removed from the corridors of power; your predecessors understood that on a sub-conscious level, it is a matter of realising it and seizing it; we can still work together sir, there is no reason to allow a petty dispute to prevent the culmination of something glorious, of something that will survive for-ever."

OOC: I'm having a blast here, I'll get back to you guys ASAP.

President Robert Ashord- United States

Ashford sat back again, Marchment's words still stuck with him in a way that he couldn't really fully understand, could the Great Truth be...what the United States had indeed been following? What the Enclave had followed then they performed the deeds they did? All along Ashford and his predecessors had believed that they were merely doing what needed be done, before returning to the way things were. From what Marchment was saying however, this indeed was the Great Truth, in a way not fully realized. Ashford refused to believe such a thing was possible, but deep down, he was terrified that it was,

"I...must have some thought to myself, General Marchment," Ashford replied, looking a bit shaken, He quickly took a sip of his tea and held it in his hand as he continued to listen to the peace talks.