so, we all know whiterun.
most of us remember cheydinhall, right?
many of us might also know their way around, say, novac from fnv...?
...countless other places like these.

we - that's (guessing) millions of people.
we've been to these places.
we know where the shops are.
we know what bends to take to get there.
we know the shortcuts, we know how to get into the sewers / the backyards / the subways
we - that's (repeating) millions of people.

so: does this make these places - real?

and don't get me wrong, not asking if it makes them, like, part of the 'real world'.
more if the plain fact they exist in that many peoples conciousness bestows them with some degree of reality,
or if something _has_ to be part of the 'real world' to be 'real'

or, the other way around: most of us might never have been to real ulan bator (i certainly haven't) - for each of them, ulan bator has no 'tangible' existence beyond what of it they have in their minds. this doesn't make ulan bator un-real though. or does it? (yes, there's good reason i didn't pick pjong yang as an example here )

probably some kind of 'can artificial intelligence have conciousness'-lite-issue.
any opinions on this?
well, beyond "get a life, nutcase", i mean.
but i'll also take that



p.s.: talking about nutcase , ever noticed how "whiterun" is kind of a whacky goat rhyme on "right one"...?

Well, our experience of them is real, just like our experience of a dream is real no matter how impossible or fantastic the events and images of the dream may be.

And there are philosophies that put forward the question of whether or not the entire "real" universe in which you live actually exists outside your own individual perception of it. I mean... if it didn't how would you know? If it was a dream you didn't know you were dreaming and you never woke up from it, to you it would be reality.

You may also be getting into the "if a tree falls in the forest..." territory here too.