I don't know what PGE is.
They try to discredit any good Nords have done for the world and then claim Nords are the racists

You do that. Stormcloaks will be happy to make this sooner than later.

(Probably not since they'll just end up tag teaming the thalmor)

Pocket guide to the empire, it was facts mixed with propaganda i.e. Tiber being from Atmora.

I would prefer the Empire to become the Kingdom of Cyrodill personally. Makes for more interesting lore.

I never even read that.
And the Atomrans were dead (i.e split off into different races) for a few thousand years when Tiber was born.

Wasn't Tiber Septim an Imperial?

Yea but it was pure propaganda, most likely Wulfharth's idea before he left Tiber to become the Underking.



Nope, but he abandoned his original culture which was probably nordic since Alcaire was once a nordic ruled settlement so Nord culture could've still be upheld there thus bretons with nord names following nord culture for Colovian/Imperial culture.

I would be okay with that. I don't hate you Stormcloak dogs, i get why you rebel. I still think it's stupid but i get it. Besides thats really the only way Bethesda could go at it without starting nuclear war.

No.
He was a Nord born in High Rock.
His first name was Hjalti Early-Beard.
Does that sound Imperial to you? Would anyone other than a Nord name their child that?
He changed his name to Tiber Septim.
And if you're wondering why Uriel VIl, Martin, and Uriel VII's other sons were Imperials, it's because since he Empire is in Cyrodiil where most women are Imperials, the Nord blood slowly went away from their bloodline after a few generations.

Nord. Hjalti Early-Beard is his real name. Tiber Septim is his self appointed name and Talos is his war general/god name.

Skooma's a helluva drug.

Again, a thought to be nord name isn't enough, we don't know what the cultural norm was in Alcaire at the time and we don't know if Tiber was a breton or imperial orphan that was just adopted by a nord.

I always leave the CW for last. I hate how the guards in the loosing holds are replaced with generic looking legionaries/stormcloacks.

I completed the CW in favor of the Stormcloacks only once and I was floored about the outcome. Little recognition and gratitude from Ulfric who's only interested in becoming the new high king and I don't think the life of the people improves in the holds where the Jarl is replaced.

If you go with Tullius, you get the feeling now the imperial war machine is finally free to be set in motion for a new confrontation with the Talmors.

Arcturian Heresy claims he was born in High Rock. I thought it said he was a Breton, but take it as you will. He still might be a Nede, but I don't suppose that troubles you.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Ghost_of_Old_Hroldan is a Nord, giving some credibility to the idea that Tiber might have been one even if he was from High Rock. The Ghost have dialogue implying he was from the same place.

Because humans appear to have a fundamental need to create argument where there is none, we like to argue things that have no answers, as this prolongs the argument; things like politics and religion.

However, because politics and religion are banned topics here, we substitute these with the politics and religion of a fantasy game.

So while we are nominally debating Skyrim's succession, etc., we are really tacitly and vicariously debating the underlying real-world issues we are forbidden to discuss.

It is an interesting phenomenon.

And by "interesting," I mean tedious.

That isn't enough to go on, we don't know if he moved there to study with the sword masters of Alcaire or if he was born there, there are many factors to go on.

There's an answer to religion though, I just won't say it to avoid a flame war of ungodly proportions

Methinks that's a little arrogant, to presume you possess such insight, if you don't mind me saying so.

Which part of "giving some credibility" is it that you don't understand? I am not setting this in stone here, just bringing up a piece of evidence.

I didn't say which side it was on.

Or I may just be saying that statement for the sake of the pun.

It's the latter, if you're wondering.

The Nords have obviously fared better since then. Am I right? Yeah. If the Nords were in charge of the Imperial city, they could have easily pummeled the Daedric Prince of destruction back into Oblivion, and quell worrires of the last Septim diesing. Yep. They would have quickly established a new legitmate Emperor with zero bloodshed - despite the restlessness of everyone well knowing the last Septim just died - because they are shrewd diplomats after all. Yep. They would have re-built the Imperial City in record time!


While they're at it, they will single-handely restored Masser and Secunda, repel the Thalmor and successfully invade Alinor with just Nord badd-assery. Yeah! Just like the old epic tale of Ysgrammor and his honorable 500 companions who destoyed an enitre Falmeri force with nothing but pure will. It certainly wasn't dragons. nope, the Dragon cultists from Atmora certainly beyond reason of doubt did not have any draogns aiding them. Pure fallacy. They also did not have a master enchanter who devoted his whole life to obssession with Mer killing magic learned form the Mer themselves. NOPE. Nords don't need magic cuz they awesome and everything because Ysgrammor epic child bed-time tale lol. Totally legit, cuz Talos is a nord too. It's not like he had an Imperial Battle-mage, an undead dragonborn avatar of Lorkhan, his own Dragon mercenaries, or a Dwemeri god-bot doing the work for him. NOPE. He's a Nord therefore he's awesome.

This all just seems like a bunch of political silliness. Decision made, I'm siding with the Imperials come hell or high water.