Well I meant I couldn't see McDowell playing Tenpenny. That would just irk me. So I'm certainly not complaining that they used McDowell for Eden.

They should have got a proper voice-actor for Tenpenny though. Charlie Warren (his voice actor) just likes to do cheesy english accents for comedy. I guess thats what they were going for: "cheesy".

Lol yeah, just an American's "generic British accent" would have done; he doesn't have to be an authentic Yorkshireman who greets you with an "'ey up" and doesn't use the word "the", just something that's not a parody .

Ok so Enclave is spying on me lol. The only reason I flot the UK government idea is the huge resources needed to sail cross the Atlantic, be it to build a ship or just the food it would take for a crew to travel that far. On a more joking not we may want our colonys back because they are ours you know and one day we will crush your rebellion lol

It's safe to say that if America's messed up, then UK/ Europe is twice as bad if people are willing to take the risk of crossing irradiated seas.


I want to ask; did the UK exist before the war as the United Kingdom, or was it split into England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland?

Because that does seem likely.

It has only ever been referred to as the United Kingdom and was by the lead developer.

I'm not sure a broken union could survive in the run up to WW3 and the Scottish independence movement as only become so large in the last few years, so I'd say fallout out UK would have been about the same size as ours tho the politics where probably very different

Furthemore, people forget that the UK is but a small part of Europe. Maybe Tenpenny just wanted out of the horror of the British Isles being torn apart by generations-old strife between England, Scotland, and Ireland.

This could be an interesting premise, contrasting historical knowledge of the Isles with the ignorance of the survivors on North American soil, coming at the expense of constant war due to wounds not healed by time.

And, frankly, who wouldn't like crazy naked Scotsmen?

Or it could be Vikings again. Imagine fallout vikings so mutated they really do have horns now the options are endless hopefully they do a fallout spinoff for the UK

I think you guys might be overestimating the difficulty of the trip. Not that it will be easy, but I don't think it's remotely impossible. People do it regularly now in small sailboats, there's even rowing races across the ocean. If Tenpenny was wealthy having a small sailing ship built or at least repaired should have been well within his abilities and shouldn't be overly difficult with the materials we can assume are available. We don't know what wildlife is in the ocean, that would be a big concern. But it seems the trip shouldn't be impossible, just difficult and dangerous.

I don't believe anyone is saying it is impossible. Myself and others are simply saying very difficult and unlikey that it is common for people to be traveling across the ocean.

Many are also pissed that Bethesda didn't give any background on Tenpenny, they didn't even bother to actually say he is from the UK in the game.

Anyone with sailing experience, and enough supplies would have a decent shot at making it. My question is why would someone from the UK come to the US in a fallout setting? Desolate, lawless, a literal nightmare come true.......... The big difference in the UK is that there would be almost no guns lying around and carried by everyone left because of their current gun laws.

That would make for a VERY boring Fallout game, but would have some safety advantages in real life I suppose.

I haven't read the entire thread. Couldn't it be possible there's a Boomers type faction in the UK, with access to functioning aircraft? After all it was never said that only the Enclave and NCR have access to aircraft. Or there could be remnants of the UK's version of the CIA, which still has functioning aircraft.

Ok, I just read that the UK was so busy bickering amongst themselves. Maybe they didn't have time to prepare like the US did, with the Enclave and Vault systems.

Edit: They could have created boats/ships that can sail the vast ocean? After all boats/ships have been around for thousands of years. If the Vikings can do it, why can't the wastelanders?

I can see Tenpenny having a ship constructed from various parts, then assembling a crew to set sail to America.

Edit 2: The real question is: What is so terrible about the UK, that one would risk sailing to another continent?

We know that the US is lawless, destryed and all of that.

But, you have to figure that the climate in the UK before the great war was bleak.
Resources were gone. there is not really anything left. I would imagine the resource wars left a lot of the uk sacked and scavenged before the great war.
The US at the time of the great war was the richest nation left on the planet.
simply put, those who fancy themselves explorers and scavengers could see the US as a goldmine of pre war materials, waiting to be discovered.

But we could also simply look to history.
America was not devloped when the spanish, french and brittish colonized here. It had potential for them to stake claims on land and resources.

its much the same as the reasoning for anyone migrating throughout history.
To see if the grass is greener on the other side.

Not exactly sure why your immediate thought of what organisation would survive the war was MI6 personally, much-less unlike the CIA they do not operate their own aircraft (which would still be stored in military or civilian airports regardless).


Any number of factors, oppression, poverty, wide-scale destruction - who knows? Europe was far-worse off than the US before the war and likely was after too, that's what the lead developer of Fallout 3 seemed to imply to me anyway.

I just meant to say any type of government installation. Not just MI6 specifically.

Which is why I wait for the day when Fallout: London or Fallout: China are announced. Really want to see what organizations have risen up since the bombs fell.

Ah the UK's a complicated place, and also impossibly centralised in London; if you want a fine wheeze feel free to check out British Continuity of Government plans.

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1458107-brytain-prevails/