Can anyone shed some light on these two for me? i've been seeing a lot of threads about them but haven't encountered them (I play on console with all DLC's)

über bosses added by Dragonborn. The Ebony Warrior you meet at level 81, Karstaag when you find his skull and return it to his throne.

Oh okay, are they both located on Solstheim?

Karstaag is located at this castle ruins on Solstheim, the Ebony Warrior will meet you randomly in a city at level 81+

No, ebony warrior's in Skyrim.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Dragonborn:Ebony_Warrior

Kaarstag:

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Dragonborn:Karstaag

Karstaag was once the ruler of the rieklings back in the third era and he ruled castle karstaag that was a huge ice castle in northern solstheim, he was killed by the Nerevarine in Hircine's wild hunt and his ghost is a pathetic let-down. The Ebony warrior could possibly be a avatar of Ebonarm who is a god of war that is associated with the Alik'r and Hammerfell's fighter's guild whose holdings once also served as chapels to Ebonarm.

His ghost is hardly a letdown. Miraak and Alduin were letdowns.

Or an aspect of Talos.

and Kaarstag's ghost is a boss.

Okay thanks guys, is Karstagg worth killing or is just a waste?

Karstaag's ghost is a pathetic let-down of a boss and avatar of Ebonarm is more likely because Ebonarm was said to have an ebony sword fused to his hand and the ebony warrior is decked out in full ebony another thing is that Ebonarm is a redguard god and the ebony warrior is a redguard.

Talos being a Redguard would be weird...I still support the Ebonarm theory the most.

@OP:

Karstaag is probably the first or second toughest boss in the game, especially on Master or Legendary.

Hes not an aspect of Talos. Why over complicate it? Hes a Redguard that has been on many adventures and is looking for a suiting death so that he may spend eternity in Sovngarde.

The dude is nine feet tall, decked out in the best armor available to an NPC, and can shout, despite being a Redguard and completely unheard of until then. It's very possible he's an avatar.

You don't have any more ground to stand on and say he's not an aspect of Talos than I do to say he is. He knows the thu'um, he's as tall as tsun, and is powerful enough to kill crowds of the most powerful beings in the game. Alduin, harkon, miraak, etc all at the same time. He's nor just some random adventurer imo. But of course I cant prove it, yet you don't see me telling you you're absolutely wrong. You call it over complicating things, I call it seeing the forest from the trees.

A redguard talking about sovngarde is wierd... Seems Talos is more likely as we've had him pop up in morrowind and oblivion.

Too many people instantly assume Wulf was Talos, it could've been Sai since the coin gives you luck, Sai is often depicted as a white wolf and Wulf had white hair.

Then maybe he's an aspect of Zenithar. Tall as Tsun (Nord Zenithar), Zenithar appeared as a Redguard in Morrowind.


Or he's just an awesome adventurer who nobody really knows about.

Why would Sai be talking about the Empire and Emperor?

Luck of the Emperor... Wulf(harth).. he was an Imperial.. Imperial Cult tells you it was Tiber Septim. It was obviously Talos.

That's a good theory.

Never thought of that...it's possible, I guess. Other than the Sovngarde thing, I don't get the biggest Talos vibe from him. But that's just my opinion.
Him being a mere adventurer doesn't feel right. How could a random, unknown adventurer have the power to go toe-to-toe with Miraak, Alduin, Karstaag, or Harkon? Unless he was swimming around in the ocean this entire time battling sea monsters. Maybe that's why he has that water breathing helm.

Explains why he shouts and wants to go to Sovngarde.

Or like I said, just an easter egg. Makes sense to be a Tsun/Zenithar avatar the more I think about it though. He is the god of trials and adversity and Ebony Warrior is a random trial in the game purely there to test your skills.

I never said you were wrong, i said why over complicate it? Maybe he is maybe he isn't. All we know is what we're shown and thats a Redguard warrior that wants peace.

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