Sorry if this has been addressed before. I did a search, but didn't come up with much.

So, this is the deal: Everyone at Lakeview (and probably the other houses) gets the occasional Bandit chief plus 2 underlings that spawn nearby. The thing that's happening on occasion for me is that they spawn inside the house. Not inside the house home invasion-style, but when you go outside, you can hear them singing about old Stros M'Kai or muttering about stupid bees and their stupid honey. But, they're literally inside the walls of the house, and I have to pull down the console and toggle clipping in order to get rid of them.

Same goes for torchbugs. They will spawn inside the walls, and they'll persist. After several game days (I'm back at the homestead almost every day), there's enough of them that the cacophony they put out gets annoying and I tcl once again to collect them all and shut them up.

Sometimes butterflies will fly through the west wall, but at least they're silent and actually disappear after a short time. These torchbugs don't. It's odd to hear their chittery sound during the day.

I'm not running any mods that would affect Hearthfire (AFAIK) except for the unofficial patch for it.

Does anyone else get this kinda stuff?

I have one bee, that is stuck in a loop inside the second floor wall above the greenhouse. I think that this is the source of hell for most players. I can see a butterfly sometimes, clip through my trophy room wall, always in the left upper corner. He doesn't make any noise though.

I have torchbugs in the upstairs bedroom in the one house that has the greenhouse. I read somewhere if you have whatever adds honeycomb on a plate you will eventually get bees inside if you don't loot it to make it disappear. So maybe Greenhouse plus food left out can cause Hell, I have no idea.

I sometimes have my Steward Vilkas spawn inside the exterior wall when he exits the house. I have vanilla with no unofficial patch, so I guess this is a bug that comes with the game. I don't think you need to use tcl to get rid of the bandits (It's possible using tcl will mess up some things/people, so it's best to use it minimally), you just have to leave the cell until they despawn. If they are idle pvssyring they aren't hurting anything.

Shouting at bugs may move them into the open, but this will seriously mess up your house.

I lost the children once as they were going in the Lakeview Manor front door, several in game months later they eventually turned up. I have a lot of Greenhouse bugs going through walls, never really caused a problem. I also have a fair bit of honeycomb on plates and it never attracted bees where there was no greenhouse.

My one greenhouse gets a lot of bees though, might check out what is in there. But even on the first few attempts at building when everything was stripped from the houses, still the Greenhouses had a lot of bees, which is why one character who built the houses a lot, eventually ended up with no greenhouse. Aussie's were only done twice and although the Greenhouse moved, she still had one, I had not yet got sick of bees.

Only bugs i notice here is i guess the regulars.. People asking me if i'm lost, mannequins moving/different stances, disappearing cabinets, cupboards and containers, and the flickering lights outside. Other than that not those weird stuff.. altho there was one time about bandits that they were just following me.. not attacking me ._.

I don't actually have any wings built yet; just main hall and entryway. I'm going to avoid the greenhouse for Lakeview as it's the primary abode. I sure don't want buzzing sounds inside the house. Insects can stay outdoors.

And they do, as long as I'm indoors. It's just that when I'm outdoors, some of them are indoors.

@ CT-4169 - Yes, my mannequins occasionally shift too (once, one of them followed me with their eyes!) I remove/replace a piece of equipment from them and they move back into place.