Spelling Error or Lore Change?

Post » Sun May 05, 2013 8:50 pm

As you can tell I am a big fan of Daedra and so through my playing of Oblivion and Skyrim I have come to notice something kind of confusing and irritating.

In Oblivion the highest ranking Dremora were called Valkynaz while the highest you could summon were called Markynaz (the spell was called Dremora Lord as was their station)

In Skyrim the highest rank of Dremora you can find is called Valynaz and the rank of the "summon Dremora Lord" spell is also Valynaz.

So is it just a misspelling on Bethesda's part of Valkynaz-Valynaz, and even then why is the "Lord" rank now higher? Markynaz are encounterable in-game but they are not used as the Lord Summon.
I don't know if the Lord in Morrowind had a Dremora rank-name or not but if he does which game's lore does it follow?

Just wondering. -a lowly servant of our Lord Dagon
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Nadia Nad
 
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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 11:06 am

Really? No input? Oh I guess nobody reads the names and titles of enemies and such in Video Games anymore or cares about continuity
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Jonny
 
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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 10:36 pm

I'm gonna go with spelling change. Just like in Oblivion they're called "daedra princes" and in Skyrim "daedric princes."

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Hazel Sian ogden
 
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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 12:37 pm

Yep. That must be it. :ermm:

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pinar
 
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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 5:06 pm

I think it is a typo. Why they used them as Dremora Leute Lords is unknown. Valkynaz are supposed to be Dagons elite and never leave his side if there is no important operation going on. Doesnt make that much sense to summon them
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lexy
 
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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 1:56 pm

I thought that since Oblivion revolved around Daedra Bethesda would have nailed down everything about them by the time Skyrim was started
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Rob Davidson
 
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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 1:20 pm

Not even close. Oblivion only dealt with two Daedric Princes. Think of Oblivion like our own oceans. Yeah, we know a bit about them but there's still much and more to discover.

In this case though, as others have said, it is a typo.

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Chavala
 
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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 5:15 pm


Well yeah but Dremora are Dagon-specific so getting their ranks and such right is kind of expected
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Alexis Acevedo
 
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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 3:56 pm

Dremora are not Dagon-specific and can be found serving other Daedric Princes as well.

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 8:14 pm

According to Oblivion they are Dagon-specific. They are his creations, they live in the Deadlands, and they share his views (destruction, ambition, etc). And I personally have never seen a Dremora in the service of another prince. The only thing close would be Sanguine using a Dremora form in Skyrim and Sanguine's rose in OB and Skyrim (and maybe Wabbajack randomly summoning one) summoning one but that just seems like a spell in a staff
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CORY
 
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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 2:02 pm

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Dremora.

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Mandi Norton
 
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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 5:38 pm

For reference I would cite "Varieties of Daedra" which is present in Oblivion and Skyrim. It states that Dremora are inhabitants of Dagon's realm and are his chief servants, as well as many other things related to his creation of them and their caste system
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Sarah Kim
 
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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 7:17 pm


Well it doesn't state that their service to another lord changes their ways, so how would that mean that Beth wouldn't have their lore finalized? I doubt the Dremora hired by Peryite is any different than the loyalists of Dagon
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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 12:36 pm

I never said they were any different from Dremora serving under Dagon.

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Emmi Coolahan
 
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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 2:31 pm


But that entire mini-conversation was in the ideal that the lore might have more in it because Dremora served other lords...or something...
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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 10:45 am

The implication is that you can't take everything Oblivion threw at you as the be all to end all. Scamps are supposedly the most common Daedra and in the service of Mehrunes Dagon but how many did you encounter throughout Oblivion versus Dremora?

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 11:57 am


Well at low levels there were far more Scamps and at high levels there were more Dremoras which makes complete since with the leveling system
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