The hair from the first one is floating above the skull when you turned, thats one of the reasons i changed it.....

Yes. I feel very much the same. I find that despite the Orc's curse, their women can still be beautiful. You just have to think like an Orc perhaps. Even as a "human" I can find certain Orcish females aesthetically pleasing. I think the problem stems from either a.) people have unusually high standards. or b.) focusing solely on their "perspective" of beauty... if that makes any coherent sense... Basically, they are human looking for humanistic qualities in an Orc.

Then again, this is coming from a weirdo like myself who would "do it" with daedra and wispmothers... so I can guess you can take my opinion with a grain of salt.

The second one is pretty...... Wierd looking.

if the daedra are dark seducers and golden saints then thats ok.

Indeed my mortal friend.

It's like polishing a turd :/

Orc's are supposed to be ugly. Y U MESS WITH SYSTEM!?

Because I can! All my male orcs are still fugly. So no worries.